we all would...thank goodness for all the old photosId have loved to see town in these days)
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Iommi family
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Suzanneiom
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Suzanneiom
master brummie
yes I saw that record, Nichola is Nicholas a male and is married to Marietta (Maria) iommi so I don't know how Giuseppe is related, maybe a sibling.. at one point Nicholas was living at duddeston row. there two giuseppes, both came over from southern Italy and only one death under Giuseppe yommi... the first photo is 100 percent my great grandad as its from family, but now im confused there seems to be another one who was alive after 1927
please do post
Suzanneiom
master brummie
It’s says he’s a former floor layer… also on the census with Maria his wife it says cement work. So I’m guessing I have the right Giuseppe.
But this other one who is an artists model I wonder where he fits in to my tree
i take it its the 39 record you want...if so here it isyes I saw that record, Nichola is Nicholas a male and is married to Marietta (Maria) iommi so I don't know how Giuseppe is related, maybe a sibling.. at one point Nicholas was living at duddeston row. there two giuseppes, both came over from southern Italy and only one death under Giuseppe yommi... the first photo is 100 percent my great grandad as its from family, but now im confused there seems to be another one who was alive after 1927
please do post
lyn
Suzanneiom
master brummie
So I figured out this morning
My great grandad Giuseppe who died 1927 married a Maria
Giuseppe the artist model who moved to buck street also married a Maria.
they all lived on the same road at one point
Felice great great grandad lived at 25 duddeston row
Giuseppe great grandad and wife lived 24
Francesco and Maria (famous Tony iommi grandparents lived) 22
and Giuseppe the artist model and his wife Maria lived at 17..
They all worked at 81 high street
incase anyone in interested in that info it might help locate burial info maybe..
My great grandad Giuseppe who died 1927 married a Maria
Giuseppe the artist model who moved to buck street also married a Maria.
they all lived on the same road at one point
Felice great great grandad lived at 25 duddeston row
Giuseppe great grandad and wife lived 24
Francesco and Maria (famous Tony iommi grandparents lived) 22
and Giuseppe the artist model and his wife Maria lived at 17..
They all worked at 81 high street
incase anyone in interested in that info
it might help locate burial info maybe..yes Maria is my grandaunt. 1911-1913 Giuseppe's daughter
Suzanneiom
master brummie
yes I ordered a digital copy of her death certificate this morning and it says married to Giuseppe iommi (artist model)
its sad reading her medical notes
she was a dressmaker.as they alll lived on the same street,im now trying to find out how the two giuseppes were related, I know they were close as from same place in Italy and came over together. But absolutely no record of Giuseppe (artist model death)
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Suzanneiom
master brummie
Ive never seen that census if you wouldn't mind posting all of it
Yes this is the right Giuseppe. ahhh you did post ill just look now thank you
Suzanneiom
master brummie
wow than you now I have all his other children
This is fantastic, Ive never seen his other children. Thankyou so much, im going to add it all to my tree.. Ive been searching so long I only had two children of his
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Suzanneiom
master brummie
My membership has ran out on ancestry, but I definitely have never seen that census. only 1911 1939 and 1955 in particular
Suzanneiom
master brummie
Ah that's why Ive never seen it then. I guess it was different in 1955 but I have a few saved documents with names and locations from that year.
Suzanneiom
master brummie
yes you're right, I had Hilda down and worked out that they could not be Felice children because of their ages, so ive listed them both under Giovanni and Lucia children. Am I right that Lucia is Lucia Lancia? before marriage. Ive actually found where Hilda is buried, she married into Groves surname, divorced and then married a Liveley.
There was a brother in law on the 1911 census called Pasquale Lancia so im thinking that could be Lucia relative
I notice that Giovanni and Lucia are under West Brom on the GRO INDEX
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pjmburns
master brummie
The birth records I posted list Mother's maiden name as Lancia. So it seems extremely likely Pasquale is her brother.
I think Giovanni filled in the form. Put his Dad (Felice as head) and himself as son, plus Lucia as daughter in law then listed the rest as how they related to him
Back then parts of present day Birmingham came under West Brom. I had problems with that at one stage.
I think Giovanni filled in the form. Put his Dad (Felice as head) and himself as son, plus Lucia as daughter in law then listed the rest as how they related to him
Back then parts of present day Birmingham came under West Brom. I had problems with that at one stage.
Suzanneiom
master brummie
Oh that is interesting then about West Brom, I thought perhaps they had moved out. I have added so much info to my tree now its great
)still non the wiser where anyone is buried lol.
But I feel a lot closer now with everyone's help
MWS
from Bham
Two observations which you may have already seen.
Firstly there appears to be a marriage reg. for a Felice Jommi and an Angela Quadrini in Bham Dec 1900. Would this be Felice and Angelina and would it possibly mean that Angelina is not the mother of Felice's children.
And secondly, the Frank Musticone (various spellings) listed as a boarder of Felice on the 1921 census may possible be related to him as well as being the brother of Frank/Frengo Iommi's wife. Frank Musticone's mother, Maria, appears to be an Iommi. Her English born children have mmn listed as possible variations of Iommi. Maybe Maria was Felice's daughter?
Firstly there appears to be a marriage reg. for a Felice Jommi and an Angela Quadrini in Bham Dec 1900. Would this be Felice and Angelina and would it possibly mean that Angelina is not the mother of Felice's children.
And secondly, the Frank Musticone (various spellings) listed as a boarder of Felice on the 1921 census may possible be related to him as well as being the brother of Frank/Frengo Iommi's wife. Frank Musticone's mother, Maria, appears to be an Iommi. Her English born children have mmn listed as possible variations of Iommi. Maybe Maria was Felice's daughter?
Suzanneiom
master brummie
Hi I noticed they got married in 1900.. I assumed she was the mother, but could be wrong, Im sure she was from Italy also so I thought they met there and then came over here?!
so on the 1911 census Francesco iommi (cousin) to Felice who was 17 at the time and Felice around 60, so I thought it must be a brothers, child or like a 3rd cousin as that's a huge gap for first cousins. He married a Maria Musticone. They had 19 children, I think they had about 23 but I have 19 listed, some twins and triplets, a lot died and I think about 12 survived. I noticed on Felice death certificate that N. Musticone registered his death and put (niece) I was confused as she wouldn't be a niece. So the fact that a Frank Musticone is a boarder makes sense, as that surname is integrated already. The Frank/Frengo ive come across that its Francesco because of his DOB and that's who married to Maria Musticone
so bloody confusing with all the different names.
But there's 4 other children of Felice and I haven't got them, only my great grandad and brother, and still I have no clue where they were all buried. I will list all the children of Francesco and Maria that I have. There's one repeated
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