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I know it was a pub.

Frothblower

Lubrication In Moderation
Right thinking caps on everyone.
My wife and I always park in New Canal Street when we go to town.
When we cross the lights on the junction of New Canal Street and Fazeley Street, there is a building on the corner, it's been boarded up for years. I always say, "that place was a pub once" and she always comes back with,"what was the name of it?" and I always say "I don't know"
Now this as got to stop. Does anyone know? I sure it had a nautical name, you can see it on this Google Earth Photo.
 
It was a pub Frothblower, i am trying to remember its name but the name wont come about 10yrs ago it had its name and looked like a pub, M & B i think.
 
It was always a cafe, as far back as I can remember, I used to use it quite a bit when I workked in New Bartholemew St as a callow youth. I used to fetch all the sarni's from there for all the old hands in the stamping shop where I worked.

I also checked it out in Kelly's and it was a dining rooms as far back as 1913. We are talking about the Fazeley St / New Canal St junction just up from the former dogs home on the same side.

Phil
 
Thanks for trying lencops.
pmc1947 the cafe moved over the road to Latif's
Thank you very much mike-g, can't get no more nautical then the Sailors return:)
 
Frothblower

Well thats a terrible cafe now in Latifs, they used to do brilliant bacon & egg sandwiches when it was on the corner.

I remember the day I started at the stamping shop, when they sent me for the breakfast sandwiches I went to the Italian cafe on the corner oppposite the Park St car park. When they bit into them you would have thought I had poisoned them. The next time I went some one went with me to show me the way.

Phil
 
HI FROTH BLOWER , LENCOOPS .
I Hope Nobody Minds Me Bringing Back This Subject , But I Thought I Had To Say Some think , Unfortuneately Around When This Subject Came On ,
I Could,nt Find The Time To Reply ,Oweing To The Fact I Had To Spend All My Time In St Mary,s Hospice , With My Dying Young Brother With His Bone Cancer ,And By The Time I Got Back To Worc; I Was Very Tired And Worn Out And It Was Late In The Morning Before Going Back , Any Way My Young Brother As Finealy Died On Thursday Afternoon At 3.30 Any Way Getting Back To The Subject The Place Froth blower And His Wife Are Correct , In The Early Fifties It Was A Dark Brown Tiled Small Pub , And It Was Called The Naughtical Pub , And There Was No Other Wording With It . On New Cannal Street In That Period There Was Stretching From Fazely Street ,Along New Cannal Street Three Cafes ,Starting At Fazely Street Faceing This Dirty Little Pub, On The Left Hand Side Of The RD Was A Little Cafe ,Run By An Old Lady
At The Traffic Lights When You Walked Along New Cannal Street,You Would Walk Pass The Dogs Home, And Next Passed That Was The Hide And Skin Then There Was Houses , And Then You Are On The Next Corner,
And There At That Corner Was Another Cafe , [A Transport BB, ]
Which Is Where I Recall My Knowledge Of The Pub Called The Naughtical
Because That Was My Grand Mothers And Grandfathers Home And Bussiness,And That Address Was NO 1 , Nwe Cannal Street And I Would
Walk My Grand PARENTS Dog Up And Down The Rd Down To The Light
Cross Over And Back On The Other Side To That Pub And Back Oppersite The Cafe This Is Many Years Before As Ever Came To Newcannal St
Eventualy That Pub Closed Down And Yes It Was Closed Down For Afew Years , Before Some-body Came Along And Decided To Give The Old Lady Competition And Open That Pub As A Cafe , Sadly I Think The Old Lady
By The Lights Either Died Or Retired .But Any Way This Old Pub The Naughtical Did Not Last Long As A Cafe,And That Was Boarded Up For Donkeys Years , Before The Asians Opened Up AS A Cash And Carry
It Was All That Successful When A.S Moved In ,
Getting Back To The Third Tea Rooms Once You Contiued Along New Cannal Street On The Oppersite Corners Was A Little Garage ,And On The Oppersite Corner Was The Dog Pub , Which Is Still There Today In Fact AlsoThe Garage All The Land That Is Now Flat Oppersite On The Corner Was Was My Grand Parents Land The Boarding Rooms The House Garage The Back Yard And The Shop Belong To Ernest Jelf And Bertha Hinton ,
And The Rest Of The ASTON Tea Rooms Bertha Died In 1953, And Ernie Sold UpAnd Went Back To Aston Cross =PARK LANE ,But The Other Third Tea Room Still Excist On New Cannal Street Today This Was 1953 -
When That Pub Was Boarded Up That Pub Did Excist And It Was Boarded Up For Years Incidently That Old Lady,s Cafe Next To The Traffic Light Did Pait It Green Where The Old Lady Kept It Black And White But Never Cleaned But Froth blower Is Bang On It Was Really There In The Very Early Fifties To The Mid FIFTIES Before Trying As A Cafe And It Was,nt There More Than 3 Months Before Being Banged Up For Years
And It Was Most Definately The Naughtical And I Thought At The Time That A Peculiar Name But That Is A Fact ;
 
Hi Astonian: So very sorry to hear of your brother's passing on Thursday.
Please accept my condolences at this very sad time. Your description of the area and answer to Frothblower's query is very clear indeed. Thanks for posting.
 
Here's the 'Sailors Return'...
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I can't see the street names anywhere on the pic' , aso this pub is not a M&B one, from this pic'.
However good trying with the name Mile, because if Astonian is correct and he does seem to be, the name did have somthing to do with boats and the water.

Astonian I'm also sorry to hear of you loss.

Pom
 
Brummie
Thats Not The Same Pub Frothblower Was On About
Its No Where Near New Cannal Street And The Fazeley Street Junction ,
It Was Just About 3OO Yrds From AS Ware house To The Corner Of Fazeley St Traffic Lights And Another 300 YRDS From The Cauliflour Pub Along The Road From There On The OPPERSITE Side Of The Road Under The Rail Way Bridge . I Said OnMy Last Thread I Think It Was In The Fifties When This Pub Were OnAbout Closed In The Fifties I Think I Should Have Said Late Forties But It Was Called The Naughtical
And In The Very Early Fifties They BoardedIt Up For Years Before Some body Tryed To Cas InOn A Cafe And Gave The Old Lady Whom Had Been There For Donkey Years
Competition But They Only Lasted For About 3 MONTHS Before They Knew They Could Not Make It Pay And Then It Was Boarded Up For Many Good Years , For About 8 YEARS Before The Asion s MOVED iN It Never Properly Took Off For Them Even For A Small CasH And Carry ,Then When AS Moved In They
 
I think I remember it as a seedy cafe Astonian - could that have been as late as the early seventies? The architecture of the building indicates it started life as a pub, I often wondered what it was called.
 
Hi Lloyed
You Are Quite Right It Was Abit Quirky Place ,
It Was In The Early Sixties They Had It Painted Blue And Tryed
Run It As A Cafe ,And At That Time The Old Lady Whom Was
Operating The Cafe Oppersite With Her Steamed Up Windows
Her Front Was All Dirty And In Urgent Need Of Painting ,
But Her Faithful Customers Stayed With Her But Eventual
Age Got To Her And She Closed Down ,And So Did The One That
My Grand Mother Died IN 1953, And Grand Father Sold Up And
Operated All His Bussiness,s And Shops FromThe Warehouse In Park Lane Aston cross
 
Astonian

The building Frothblower was talking about was on the east side of New Canal St (the same side as the dogs home). It was the cafe at No 30 New Canal St on the corner of Fazeley St. This according to Kelly's was always Coffee Rooms, Dining Rooms, or a cafe. A lot of dining rooms had similar architecture to public Houses.

On the West side of New Canal St the same side as Latif's at the junction of Fazeley st at No 101 there was a pub called the Hope & Anchor, I suppose the local name for that could have been the Nautical.

Phil
 
Here is a map of where I mean. The Google Earth picture maybe a little vague.Hope it helps.
Astonian,My thoughts go to to you and your family on your sad loss.
 

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The 'Sailor's Return' was near the corner of Watery Lane and Great Barr Street. You can see Great Barr Street going off to your right in the picture. Opposite was a small island with a gents urinal and a horse trough and beyond that on the opposite corner was Garrison Land Park. During the war my mother and the four children used the air raid shelters in the park nightly.
 

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Couple of pics. of Sailors Return in Watery Lane 1982
 

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Here is a map of where I mean. The Google Earth picture maybe a little vague.Hope it helps.
Astonian,My thoughts go to to you and your family on your sad loss.

This is the Map Frothy, but I need to be able to zoom in. I don't know how I missed it I wasn't on Holidays and wasn't drinking. Perhaps my computer was down or had a row.
 
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Hi Folks
Sorry I'm late with this thread.... I only browse the site occasionally. I wish I had more time as I probably have the answer to many pub queries. Anyway, the pub in question is the Hope and Anchor. It was once operated by Homer's Vulcan Brewery but later was a M&B house. During the war it was kept by Florence Allen. She stayed until 1956 when Arthur Grigg became the licensee. However, his stay was short. The pub closed in April 1957 and the full licence was transferred to the Britannia in Hampton Street.

Not bad for a Yam Yam

Cheers
Kieron
www.midlandspubs.co.uk
 
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Hi Folks
Sorry I'm late with this thread.... I only browse the site occasionally. I wish I had more time as I probably have the answer to many pub queries. Anyway, the pub in question is the Hope and Anchor. It was once operated by Homer's Vulcan Brewery but later was a M&B house. During the war it was kept by Florence Allen. She stayed until 1956 when Arthur Grigg became the licensee. However, his stay was short. The pub closed in April 1957 and the full licence was transferred to the Britannia in Hampton Street.

Not bad for a Yam Yam

Cheers

Kieron
www.midlandspubs.co.uk

Thanks for that Kieron

I remember it opening some time ago selling clothes and stuff.

Froth
 
Kieron, I echo what frothblower says. Thank you for the excellent info.:)
 
Frothy that was the Pub I used to sit on the step with my late Sister when we used to meet granddad every Friday evening after he finished work.:)
 
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