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Hunters Road Hockley
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Walked across that Bridge a few times when i worked there in 1968/9.
hunters road..hockley
well i managed to get out with me camera today and went down the old end to have a look at hunters road and was very surprised to see this blue plaque on a lovely house on the corner of naden road and hunters road...dedicated to a john hardman..it reads john hardman...1811-1867..master metalworker and stained glass lived here..i also took a few pics of st marys convent and the carnegie..maybe of some interest to those who knew the area...
lyn..
well i managed to get out with me camera today and went down the old end to have a look at hunters road and was very surprised to see this blue plaque on a lovely house on the corner of naden road and hunters road...dedicated to a john hardman..it reads john hardman...1811-1867..master metalworker and stained glass lived here..i also took a few pics of st marys convent and the carnegie..maybe of some interest to those who knew the area...
lyn..
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the carnegie....took a look round the back for the first time in over 40 years and as suspected the old pram sheds have now gone but the back door is still in the same place..i remember it like yesterday going here with our mom to collect the little bottles of free orange juice..
round the back...
and the front..
certainly can not remember seeing this lovely statue on the front of the building..
the carnegie....took a look round the back for the first time in over 40 years and as suspected the old pram sheds have now gone but the back door is still in the same place..i remember it like yesterday going here with our mom to collect the little bottles of free orange juice..
round the back...
and the front..
certainly can not remember seeing this lovely statue on the front of the building..
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Wendy
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Wow Lyn what lovely pictures. I had no idea about John Hardman and what a lovely house. I googled his name and came up with a fascinating history on Wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardman_&_Co.
Wow Lyn what lovely pictures. I had no idea about John Hardman and what a lovely house. I googled his name and came up with a fascinating history on Wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardman_&_Co.
Shortie
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There is still a Hardman company making stained glass and I think I am right saying it is the only one now. It's definitely the same company but what they call themselves I don't know - it may have had a slight name change. I found that out when I did a tour of St Chad's Cathedral, as he made some of the stained glass for that, too, if not all of it.
There is still a Hardman company making stained glass and I think I am right saying it is the only one now. It's definitely the same company but what they call themselves I don't know - it may have had a slight name change. I found that out when I did a tour of St Chad's Cathedral, as he made some of the stained glass for that, too, if not all of it.
Shortie
master brummie
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Chance Glass also did ecclesiastical glass at one time, but then they decided to go for the paler stuff which is present in loads of Edwardian windows. I presume most of the churches would have Hardman even if only in one window - I guess it would depend on the year. I have not looked anything up, so I don't know when the firm started. They also may have specialised in particular processes - complicated stuff. Need to look this one up, it's suddenly become very interesting.
Chance Glass also did ecclesiastical glass at one time, but then they decided to go for the paler stuff which is present in loads of Edwardian windows. I presume most of the churches would have Hardman even if only in one window - I guess it would depend on the year. I have not looked anything up, so I don't know when the firm started. They also may have specialised in particular processes - complicated stuff. Need to look this one up, it's suddenly become very interesting.
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it is becoming interesting shortie and i will be very interested to read of your findings when you have the time...talking about chances glass my grandfather used to work there..he cycyled there and back from paddington st aston every day...
lyn
it is becoming interesting shortie and i will be very interested to read of your findings when you have the time...talking about chances glass my grandfather used to work there..he cycyled there and back from paddington st aston every day...
lyn
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Lyn
There is a book about John Hardman & Co by Michael fisher. Hardman did some impressive work with Pugin and he was called Pugin's candlestick maker (in the book anyway). It mentions near the beginning that the family (John and father John) lived at a (no numbering in the road at that time) house called Woodland house, Hunters Lane in the early years of the 19th century. The 1873 directory lists a house called St John's, which seems to be in a different position. The 1889 OS amp lists a St johns house at about the junction with Naden Road (though Naden road did not exist then). It looks therefore that he was brought up in Hunters road and lived in Hunters Road later in life also, but in a different house. There were other Hardmans in the road, also, including the Abbess of the RC convent
Lyn
There is a book about John Hardman & Co by Michael fisher. Hardman did some impressive work with Pugin and he was called Pugin's candlestick maker (in the book anyway). It mentions near the beginning that the family (John and father John) lived at a (no numbering in the road at that time) house called Woodland house, Hunters Lane in the early years of the 19th century. The 1873 directory lists a house called St John's, which seems to be in a different position. The 1889 OS amp lists a St johns house at about the junction with Naden Road (though Naden road did not exist then). It looks therefore that he was brought up in Hunters road and lived in Hunters Road later in life also, but in a different house. There were other Hardmans in the road, also, including the Abbess of the RC convent
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Lovely photos Lyn !! #2 Helped clean at St Marys convent when i was about 12 Saturday mornings.
Lovely photos Lyn !! #2 Helped clean at St Marys convent when i was about 12 Saturday mornings.
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wow thanks for all that info mike...most interesting...you are right of course about hunters road previously being called hunters lane just as nursery road around the corner used to be called nursery lane back in the day...
thanks again mike..
wow thanks for all that info mike...most interesting...you are right of course about hunters road previously being called hunters lane just as nursery road around the corner used to be called nursery lane back in the day...
thanks again mike..
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ok shortie..no rush...paddington st was just off summer lane and demolished in the 60s as you say quite a way from smethwick...dont know how grandad managed it but i have a feeling he must have worked at chance glass before going off to fight in france..he was gassed a couple of times and was never the same after that..he died just before the outbreak of ww2 when mom was 10...
ok shortie..no rush...paddington st was just off summer lane and demolished in the 60s as you say quite a way from smethwick...dont know how grandad managed it but i have a feeling he must have worked at chance glass before going off to fight in france..he was gassed a couple of times and was never the same after that..he died just before the outbreak of ww2 when mom was 10...
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Hardman's started as making silver, gold and metal items and they supplied much of the metalwork for the original palace of Westminster. it was only later, when they did work for pugin in the palace of westminster that they became also into painted glass windows. Most of the original ones in the palace of Westminster were destroyed by the irish bombing of the later 19th century, and german bombing in ww2. The two below are from the book, and i believe (though am not absolutely clear) that these are replacements made by Hardman. He also made windows fro erdington abbey and st chads, and Worcester cathedral, amongst many others. the Erdington abbey window is also below
Hardman's started as making silver, gold and metal items and they supplied much of the metalwork for the original palace of Westminster. it was only later, when they did work for pugin in the palace of westminster that they became also into painted glass windows. Most of the original ones in the palace of Westminster were destroyed by the irish bombing of the later 19th century, and german bombing in ww2. The two below are from the book, and i believe (though am not absolutely clear) that these are replacements made by Hardman. He also made windows fro erdington abbey and st chads, and Worcester cathedral, amongst many others. the Erdington abbey window is also below
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