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HS2 Archaeology

The Revd Lucy Winkett has a Birmingham connection having studied theology at Birmingham university. I always wondered about that grassy mound with a clump of trees near Euston station. I wonder who made the cardboard figures? Perhaps Birmingham will have an exhibition of unearthed materials?
 
Stokkie said:
The Revd Lucy Winkett has a Birmingham connection having studied theology at Birmingham university. I always wondered about that grassy mound with a clump of trees near Euston station. I wonder who made the cardboard figures? Perhaps Birmingham will have an exhibition of unearthed materials?
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Stockier, I thought (could be mistaken) that the figures were made using a 3D process.
 
Richard Dye said:
Stockier, I thought (could be mistaken) that the figures were made using a 3D process.
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Yes Richard, but the Royal College of Arts and doubtless other design schools teach students how to use such tools. I was curious about the makers, I guess I was making a point about anonymous makers compared with the people in the video who are called by their Christian names in that irritating corporate way.
 
Stokkie said:
Yes Richard, but the Royal College of Arts and doubtless other design schools teach students how to use such tools. I was curious about the makers, I guess I was making a point about anonymous makers compared with the people in the video who are called by their Christian names in that irritating corporate way.
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I never and still don’t understand the name thing! When I was growing up at school we were all called by our surname which I thought was demeaning and controlling. And now Christian names! What’s wrong with your given name, that why we have one! Getting off topic, and to think someone actually gets paid for this. Talk about waste!
 
Richard Dye said:
I never and still don’t understand the name thing! When I was growing up at school we were all called by our surname which I thought was demeaning and controlling. And now Christian names! What’s wrong with your given name, that why we have one! Getting off topic, and to think someone actually gets paid for this. Talk about waste!
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It could be that corporate workers are anonymous in videos, but the company wants to portray a friendly attitude. So everyone is referred to by their first name. Lucy Winkett is very well known media figure in the church. The HR types and management used to talk about the Vice Chancellor by his first name while we lowly academics muttered sarcastically. But it is part of news management and publicity. Back on topic/
 
The HS 2 archeology team have been successful in uncovering many features of past life along the route from Birmingham to London. It will be of interest to see what will be revealed on the line to Crewe.

As to the locomotive shed which is now buried again, will it ever be seen again, I wonder.
 
Wellwick Farm near Wendover was mentioned in 2024 as an important site, but in Birmingham there have been sites of industrial interest that the HS 2 Archeology group have little regard to explore such as had been possible at Bromford before work commenced and at Curzon Street they had no interest to discover the foundations of the train sheds for both the London & Birmingham Railway and the Grand Junction Railway
 
Stokkie said:
https://historicengland.org.uk/imag...haeological-remains/appdx5-cs1-curzon-street/
The Round House foundations are reburied. This is intended to be permanent, but should preserve the site.

I'll be interested if we learn any more of the 6500 burials in Birmingham. I guess they will be reinterred at Witton? Covid lockdown interrupted the public interpretation, but there are interesting TV programmes.
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yes stokkie permanent so never to be seen again...i dont know...the worlds oldest preserved roundhouse engine shed with concrete turntable and they have to hide it from the world to see.. very sad as once again the people of birmingham lose out.. :mad:it would have been nice to be given the chance to see it in person before being buried again..

as for those burials....i think questions have been asked but as far as i know no one seems to know anything about them...that or they wont tell us

lyn
 
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Ouch ! A bit over the top to describe the HS2 Archaeology team as having little regard and having no interest in a particular piece of history.
 
Astoness said:
yes stokkie permanent so never to be seen again...i dont know...the worlds oldest preserved roundhouse engine shed with concrete turntable and they have to hide it from the world to see.. very sad as once again the people of birmingham lose out.. :mad:it would have been nice to be given the chance to see it in person before being buried again..

as for those burials....i think questions have been asked but as far as i know no one seems to know anything about them...that or they wont tell us

lyn
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Lyn,
I imagine there will be plenty of analysis of the remains for signs of disease and industrial injuries. It is often possible to discover where an individual was born before they came to Birmingham. This could take a long time. I think there were many more buried at Birmingham than initially expected.
Derek
 
I am confident that everything has been measured and photographed. However, the issue I raised with the HS2 Park Hill Cemetery archaeology team years ago persists: their reluctance to share data. The entire project seemed to revolve solely around archaeologists, excluding historians and offering no community engagement or learning opportunities for outsiders.

Repeatedly, my experience with archaeologists has been that most operate in isolation, jealously guarding their findings—often delaying publication for years. I’m aware of several publicly funded projects where results were only published long after completion.
 
Morturn said:
I am confident that everything has been measured and photographed. However, the issue I raised with the HS2 Park Hill Cemetery archaeology team years ago persists: their reluctance to share data. The entire project seemed to revolve solely around archaeologists, excluding historians and offering no community engagement or learning opportunities for outsiders.

Repeatedly, my experience with archaeologists has been that most operate in isolation, jealously guarding their findings—often delaying publication for years. I’m aware of several publicly funded projects where results were only published long after completion.
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That is very sad that the archeologists are acting so unprofessionally especially with the use of public funds. I would be looking to those managing (if they really are) the funding to explain why the public whose funds are being used are denied access to their history!
 
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