I was stood outside the Midland Red works in Carlisle road, Edgbaston in about 1961 looking at the buses. A man came out of the office and asked me if I was 'bus spotting', yes said I. He gave me a 'Midland Red Fleet List' book. I was well made up. I still have this book and as yet have not been able to 'spot' every number that's listed.