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Hinton Bertha victoria

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Astonian

gone but not forgotten
hI GUYS
I WAS WONDERING WHETHER OR NOT IS IT POSSIBLE SOME-ONE COULD DO A CENSOR LOOK UP
FOR THE NAMED PERSON WHOM LIVED IN KINGS NORTON WORCESTERSHIRE
FOR THE PERIOD OF THE 1800S AROUND THE 1869 OR THE NEAREST TO THAT DATE PLEASE AS THIS PERSON WAS A RELATIVE TO ME
MANY 5HANKS ASTONIAN
 
Re: Bertha victoria hinton

Astonian, there is a Bertha Hinton aged 8 with John 1841, Isabella 1851; John 1872, Florence 1874 and Bertha born 1883 living 30 Sutton Street?
 
Re: Bertha victoria hinton

Astonian there is a Bertha Victoria Hinton B1887 2nd quarter - Kings Norton, so the one I have sent previously is not the one.
 
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hi carolina
just picked up on your thread many . many thanks for your astinance on this ; the first one i read of sutton street
i seem to have relatives of jelfs by the name of ada and henry jelfs whom was related to my gt grand father
but this one as to be correct thanks i hope you do not mind me asking but is there any chance you could tell me who was living therewith her please
as i am trying to trace her ; and her sibblings if it was possible
many thanks astonian
 
Re: Bertha victoria hinton

Astonian I can only find a birth for Bertha Victoria - there are a couple of Bertha Hintons but as I say not Bertha Victoria, but I will continue to look. Do you have any more info - names of siblings or parents that could help?
 
Re: Bertha victoria hinton

Astonian, there is indeed a marriage for Bertha Hinton marrying Jelfs 1st quarter 1916 - Birmingham.

In 1907 there is a marriage for Berth Hinton to a George Farrell 4th quarter 1907 - Kings Norton.

There seems to be a lot of Hintons within the Kings Norton area.
 
Astonian, in a post earlier this year I believe Ladylinda gave you info about this lady who was your Grandmother.
Bertha Victoria Hinton born 1887 daughter of Walter and Catherine Hinton, Walter was a policeman and Catherine his wife died in 1890
leaving him with 3 daughters Beatrice, Edith and Bertha.
Bertha Victoria Jelf died in 1953.
 
hi carolina
many thanks for that information regarding she was married before hand and ithinking was this the right bertha victoria hinton
whom married jelf and that really my mother was not jelfs child ;after all; ? question mark angs over does it
and really she was farrells child after all and done i recall her saying that she was with them at the time on the way to blackpool
and they had a special licence to get married in the st martins church before shooting of to black pool on he same day
as i recall her saying to me one day wheni was young
was kings norton full of hintons did yoe a phillip hinton by any chance i dont surpose you had seen the address of the family
that would be the iceing on the cake ; i must admitt for years i always asked myself =why if she is the only child ; one knows about the story lines
some times why only one child is in a marrige for variuos reasons as a woman would know ;
thanks a million carolina ; for this shocking and yet marevellous info ; you have given me
best wishes astonian;;;
 
hi carolina
just to say i miss or over seen your last post ;regarding ladylinda,s info;
many thanks to you both sincerely and now i will collate all this information to my files
and now i know about them i will inform my ther family members thanks alan ; astonian
 
Sorry to correct you Carolina but the Bertha Hinton who married in 1907 married Sydney Penzer, they went to live in New Zealand but returned because she died in Birminghan 1926 still called Penzer.
On Free BMD the names are arranged in alphabetical order and not in couples,there are 2 couples on this page Bertha and Ernest and George Farnell/Farrell married Sarah A Rowley

Alan rest assured your grandmother only married once and your mother Joyce was the child of Ernest Jelf.
 
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HI Alberta
how are you keeping fine i hope ?,many thanks for notifying me of the mistake carolina made ;still its easy done is,nt it
now my minds made up and at rest ;it w3as just as well i never got to tell my sisters ;christ knows what they would hve said ;
any way i sincerely thank you both for your imenced attention in researching for me ;god bless you both
best wishes alan ;; astonian;
 
HI ALBERTA ; AND CAROLINA
SORRY TO BE A PAIN IN THE BUTT ON MY THREAD AND SUBJECT REGARDING BERTHA VICTORIA HINTO .[ JELF ] SHE DIED IN 1953 AND BURRIED WITH ERNEST IN YARDLEY CEM; THAT I KNOW FOR CERTAIN AS I WENT THERE AND ASKED FOR THE PLOT WHICH I GOT AND WENT TO VISIT IT
BUT IF ITS POSSIBLE AND I HOPE YOU DO NOT MIND ME PUTTING ANY PRESSURES ON YOU BOTH AND I YOU WILL THINK I AM A NUISANCE
BUT I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS I WOULD LIKE TO ASKED YOU BOTH [THATS IF YOU CAN AND I KNOW ITS TAKES YOUR VALUABLE TIME UP AND POSSIBLY MONEY
UNLESS YOU HAVE ALREADY GOT ACCESS TO IT AND THATS IS I WAS TOLD BY ONE OF MY YOUNGER BROTHERS THAT MOM HAD A HALF BROTHER AND WAS KILLED AT SEA ;I THINK HE SAID HIS NAME WAS PHILLIP DO YOU KNOW IF THAT WAS TRUE ALSO THE MYSTRY OF BERTHAS MOTHER WHAT WAS HER MAIDEIN NAME I WOULD DEARLY LOVE TO KNOW THAT AND IF ANY THINK ABOUT HER SO I CAN GET THE RECORDS FROM VARIOUS DEPT IF I CAN ;
ONCE AGAIN MANY THANKS TO YOU BOTH FOR ALL YOUR VALUABLE TIME AND LIKE WISE TO ALL AND EACH OTHER FOUNDER MEMBERS OF THIS GREAT FORUM FOR ALL THERE INPUT OVER THE YEARS [ THANKS ] BEST WISHES astonian
 
Alan see Post No 7 on this thread for your grandmother. Regarding stepbrother Phillip, what was his surname?
 
I had an Aunt, named LUCY HINTON, and she had a son called Ronnie, and a son called Billy and one called John. Her daughters were Violet & Hilda & Irene. They lived in ( I think) Small Heath, or Balsall Heath, in the late forties and fifties. Lucies brother was Jack Hill, who was well known in the Rag Market and the Digbeth area. He was born on the Black Patch in Smethwick. I am just throwing this out there to see IF anyone has any knowledge at all of the family? Jack was my Grandad.
 
Hi as far as i know these people aint related to my family of bertha victoria jelf whom was my mothers mother and my mother was the only child at one point in time i beleive there was a jelf living in small heath and years before that in the thirty period mom said the jelf around that time was the poorer relations of jelfs ended up in the work house they was from around he balsall heath area [ the small heath period i beleive there was a jelf during the fiftys
What do you know of IRENE JELF , What can you tell me of an irene jelf did she get married or what ?.
 
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