Hill family

[Alberta]

Hill/Abbott family

Rowland Rearson Hill married Ada Eliza Abbott birmingham 1894
reference 6d 396

1881 census


Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Richard HILL Head M Male 30 Birmingham Jewel Case Maker (L Gds)
Mary Ann HILL Wife M Female 30 Birmingham
Rowland P. HILL Son Male 8 Birmingham Scholar
Elizabeth J. HILL Daur Female 5 Birmingham Scholar
John R. HILL Son Male 3 Handsworth, Stafford, England
William H. HILL Son Male 8 m Birmingham


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Source Information:
Dwelling 9 Powell Street
Census Place Birmingham, Warwick, England

ABBOTT family 1881
Household Record 1881 British Census

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Henry ABBOTT Head M Male 31 Bourne, Leicester, England Press Tool Maker 2 Men 8 Girls
Sarah A. ABBOTT Wife M Female 28 Birmingham
Ada E. ABBOTT Daur Female 9 Birmingham Scholar
Henry E. ABBOTT Son Male 7 Birmingham Scholar
Albert E. ABBOTT Son Male 2 Birmingham
Maud B. ABBOTT Daur Female 3 m Birmingham


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Source Information:
Dwelling 167 Unett St
Census Place Birmingham, Warwick, England

In 1901 family living Aston Manor area.
Rowland age 28 Jewel case maker
Ada age 27
Lilian age 5
Roland age 3

Hopethishelps

 

[A.Willoughby]

Further to the above. Reference to the 1851 Census shows the following:

Living at Grosvenor Street West, 12 Court, 2 houses lived the following :

Richard HILL aged 32 years a Power Loom Weaver born Foleshill, War.

Jane Hill aged 34 years Born Birmingham

Mariah Hill aged 8 years (d) Born Birmingham

Emma Hill aged 4 years (d) Born Birmingham

John Pearson Hill aged 3 years born Birmingham.

Richard Hill aged 6 months.

Would suggest that the Richard referred to by Alberta is the Richard above and he named his son after his elder brother.
Good hunting.

 

[A.Willoughby]

One is able to purchase the 1881 Census for the whole of the country on disc.
The 1851 census is also on disc but this simply covers Devon, Norfolk and Warwickshire counties.

 

[Jean]

Hello Canadagrl:
The 1881 Census is also available on the FamilySearch site (Church of Latter Day Saints). The 1891 Census is being transcribed by volunteers on the Warwickshire Ancestry Project site; not all of Aston is finished. This is not a searchable data base but CtrlF then type in the name you are looking for will get you around it.
Hope your winter is warmer than ours has been!

 

[Rod]

Inquiry

I just thought I'd like to ask a question here..... I'm researching my tree, I have been for a year or two, but Ive not moved to far back yet for a couple of reasons. the most important of which is proof. I notice Canada girl that you have been able to fill in gaps just by the results you have received here. When I am researching, nothing goes into my tree until I have certificates and other proof. I formed the opinion that it's a bit of a minefield, what I mean is, if you get one thing wrong it'll take you down the wrong path and your soon "BARKING UP THE WRONG FAMILY TREE"

I must admit to being a novice, I have lots to learn about genealogy. Perhaps with this in mind, I could start an advice section on this forum, so those of you who are accomplished in the art of Genealogy can advise of those tips which have made it possible for you to save time in the way you research? Would this help others? let me know!!

 

[Pomgolian]

I agree with you Rod, it is easy to be thrown of track as families in the past seemed to use the same Christian names for each generation. So unless you come across an unusual christian name, have a definite date, or a mothers maiden name (that was sometimes used as a middle name) it soon gets confusing as they all seem to live in not only the same area but also the same street. As Rod said a certificate is sometimes the only real proof and I have found even then dates may not match if one of the party "Fibs" about their age if it is a Marriage. One side of my family were good enough to use a least one unusual first name at one time and the other side had an unusual spelling of their Surname. Colin's however were not so obliging, do you know how many James Pounder's there were and still are in Hartlepool? :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[A.Willoughby]

Rod is quite right in what he says and wherever possible one should confirm the guidance/ information one is given by following up to obtain the actual document concerned but even with this in one's hands one cannot be complacent you have it in its correct form. Take the Hill case for example and the references to both the 1851 and 1881 cenuses.
It was a good guide to look to the use of the name 'Pearson' as a middle name. It could be taken as a unusual connection worthy to guide one's further enquiries along a certain cause. However I have discovered that on the IGI records (very untrustworthy before someone says so) I found another ie. James Pearson Hill born 12.10.1862 (English dating) at New Mills, Derby. of a Mary and James Hill. Could there be another member of the family referred to earlier above or is this one of thoe co-incidences one must be aware.?
Mistakes could have occurred at any stage of the compilation. (1) The actual entry onto the disc suppingly the information (2) Mistake by the person transcribing from all the lists to supply No 1. (3) transcriber from actual census to lists making a mistake and more importantly the original person who took the information from the Hill family. I have found that either due his limited literacy and/or understanding of dialects that what has been said to him he enters completely bogus/incomplete information.
One can only check so far. Finally having tried to corroborate whereever possible either accept or reject the details one has.
If it is purely for one's own consumption(so to speak) it does little harm, apart from your knowledge, if you are found to be out, but if one intends to circulate it afield then greater accuracy must be adhered to without exception.

 

[Eric Hill - HLHS]

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Rod, I think it is a great idea to get some of our brains involved, there must be loads of people out there with a wealth of information and expertise in the Family History field, just look how quick members jumped in to help Canadagrl with her inquiry. I struggled for years to get my Hill family history started (no relation Canadagrl) and it was only a single clue off an elderly Aunt that put me on the right track. By this time it had cost me loads, so one bit of advice from me would be: Question all the Oldies in your Family first before you lose them, ask around the Family if anyone has already done your Family Tree, join a Society like the BMSGH and search their fantastic records section but above all, never take anything for granted, prove everything and always record your source of information. :wink:

 

[tmknsnjane]

Re: Hill/Abbott family

Hi I think I have the same Abbotts in my tree