High Park Street and High Park Corner Nechells

[Astoness]

hi ivor all photos posted prior to 2011 were lost when the forum was hacked..many have been replaced but not all...i will have a look tomorrow to see if i still have that one...could be that others members may have it as well and will repost it for you

lyn

 

[Ivor Williams]

I went to St Clements School in High Park Street.I left in 1953 aged 15 and it then became an infant and juniors only school.
Any one else out there from that time?
Bryan.

Hi, Bryan! Do you know when the iron fire escape was added to St Clements infant playground? Also, were you ever able to access the classroom that had a door in the Boys Playground from the door under the wooden stairs? It was never used in my time.

 

[Ivor Williams]

just thought i would share this photo that i have just found it shows High park street/thimble mill lane and Railway terrace in the distance plus lh newtons and my old school st clements in the middle with this photo i am getting closer to The Mitre that was on the corner of Railway Terrace/Long Acre you never know one day!.


Talking of pubs can anyone tell me the name of the one shown on the corner as i was to young to frequent it when i lived there

Phil


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Hi, Phil! Thanks for the photo. I don't know the name of the pub, sorry. There is a photo of the Mitre in Railway Terrace on the net. I've seen it. What is the date of your photo because the houses in Thimble Mill Lane have been demolished?

 

[Ivor Williams]

nice pic phil...the mitre is still open..my sister and her work mates were in there over christmas...
sorry i cant name that pub on the corner as im lost over that way but im still looking for a good pic of the one that was on the corner of holborn hill and longacre as my sisters house now sits on the ground..think it was called the white swan but i will have to double check on that one..

lyn

Hi, Lyn.
The pub you're looking for was called the White Horse. There is a photo on the net. It was my dad's local and just along from our house inLong Acre.

Ivor

 

[Ivor Williams]

William Kember moved into no 13 as a shopkeeper between 1868 , when it was a beer retailer run by James Blower (probably a beerhouse, but possibly an off licence) and 1872 . it was on the west side of the street about half way down, but i cannot exactly pinpoint the building. He is there in 1873, but number 13 is not listed in 1876. He might still be there but not listed, or have moved
Mike

Hi, Mike! I know the address. It was a sweet shop when I was at St. Clements school. I went in there one time to buy a halfpenny chew. It was twelve-o-clock. I had noticed that the flag on top of Newtons factory, opposite, was at half-mast. I didn't really know what that signified. The lady who served me said that the two farthings that I gave her were no longer legal tender. I was eight years old. She gave me the chew, though, and accepted my money. She had been crying. When I got home home my mom was crying, too, listening to the radio (wireless). The king had died.

 

[mikejee]

I think this must be the photo of 68 (I've certainly labelled it that). There are also two photos of St Clements church at different times
Also a photo of St Clements school.

 

[philbee]

I think this must be the photo of 68 (I've certainly labelled it that). There are also two photos of St Clements School at different timesView attachment 115163 View attachment 115164 View attachment 115165

Hi Mike just accessed this old post in which you have stated that the photos of "st Clements school " are infact St Clements church i think was in stuart street the school was in High Park Street i was at st clements from 1953 to 1958 when we left "the old end" and moved to Kingshurst.
Reguards Phil.

 

[Radiorails]

Good photos and detail here:
https://ahistoryofbirminghamchurches.jimdo.com/aston-ss-peter-paul/st-clement-nechells/

 

[mikejee]

Sorry about the error. Have corrected and added a photo of the real school

 

[landcrab9]

Hi, Bryan! Do you know when the iron fire escape was added to St Clements infant playground? Also, were you ever able to access the classroom that had a door in the Boys Playground from the door under the wooden stairs? It was never used in my time.

Hello Ivor,
Only just noticed this question. I first started at St Clements in 1942 and the iron staircase was there then as far as I can remember, when I was 12 it was my classroom and my teacher was Mr Hill. The playground was for the girls and there were no restrictions on age, the other playground was for boys. The door from the playground was never used to my knowledge. Good luck with the book.
Bryan.

 

[Ivor Williams]

I went to St Clements School in High Park Street.I left in 1953 aged 15 and it then became an infant and juniors only school.
Any one else out there from that time?
Bryan.

g
I remember Mr Hill. He was tall and thin and had a moustache. When I became a junior he sometimes did Playground Duty in the boys playground at the side of the school building. The older boys alerted us to the fact that Mr Hill would get us to line up at the end of playtime. Having done that, he would turn his back on us. Then, he would watch us in the reflection of his spectacles to see who was fidgeting or whispering, etc. But, thanks to the tip-off from the older boys, we always stood motionless and silent.
Also, there were three first floor classrooms that could be directly accessed via the iron staircase.

 

[Ivor Williams]

nice pic phil...the mitre is still open..my sister and her work mates were in there over christmas...
sorry i cant name that pub on the corner as im lost over that way but im still looking for a good pic of the one that was on the corner of holborn hill and longacre as my sisters house now sits on the ground..think it was called the white swan but i will have to double check on that one..

lyn

Hi, Lyn! The pub on the corner of Long Acre and Holborn Hill was called the White Horse. On the day that we celebrated the Coronation (I think it was a Saturday but I'm not sure if it was the actual Coronation Day) tables were laid out from the bottom to the top of Malvern Hill Road. But, before we sat down to eat, it rained. Things were hastily re-arranged and nearby pubs shared the task of providing rooms for the kids to eat their food. I was with a crowd who were sent to the room above the bar of the White Horse, corner of Long Acre and Holborn Hill.

 

[Ivor Williams]

I think this must be the photo of 68 (I've certainly labelled it that). There are also two photos of St Clements church at different timesView attachment 115163 View attachment 115164 View attachment 115165
Also a photo of St Clements school.
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The nearest ground floor windows in this photo of St Clement's were those of the Head Office. Mrs Schofield was headmistress during my years at the school, 1949-1956. She always led morning assemblies in the upstairs junior hall in the far wing and then spent the rest of her time in the Head Office. The windows above the Head Office were those of Class One from where pupils left when old enough to go to Senior School.

I think this must be the photo of 68 (I've certainly labelled it that). There are also two photos of St Clements church at different timesView attachment 115163 View attachment 115164 View attachment 115165
Also a photo of St Clements school.
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[landcrab9]

g
I remember Mr Hill. He was tall and thin and had a moustache. When I became a junior he sometimes did Playground Duty in the boys playground at the side of the school building. The older boys alerted us to the fact that Mr Hill would get us to line up at the end of playtime. Having done that, he would turn his back on us. Then, he would watch us in the reflection of his spectacles to see who was fidgeting or whispering, etc. But, thanks to the tip-off from the older boys, we always stood motionless and silent.
Also, there were three classrooms that could be directly accessed via the iron staircase.

Ivor,
I always found Mr Hill to be a nice man, a very good teacher. Yes the class immediately off the iron staircase was Mr Hill's, The one to the left off that one was the wonderful Mrs Gray and the one to the right as you went in was Mr McAllister's. He only had one eye and wore a leather eye patch over the bad one. He retired and I met him in Erdington high street a few years later after I had finished my national service.
Bryan

 

[Ivor Williams]

nice pic. we went to that church. for sunday school. as infants we went to st clements school. that seems like a hundred years ago. one of the teachers there cained my brother,he went home with a wail mark still on is bum. mom went to the school,and i thought she was going to put the teachers lights out.

nice pic. we went to that church. for sunday school. as infants we went to st clements school. that seems like a hundred years ago. one of the teachers there cained my brother,he went home with a wail mark still on is bum. mom went to the school,and i thought she was going to put the teachers lights out.

nice pic. we went to that church. for sunday school. as infants we went to st clements school. that seems like a hundred years ago. one of the teachers there cained my brother,he went home with a wail mark still on is bum. mom went to the school,and i thought she was going to put the teachers lights out.

 

[Ivor Williams]

What was the name of the teacher that caned your brother?

 

[Ivor Williams]

Hi Bryan

Yes there a few of us on 'Friends reunited' from St Clements.
I have the school register for enrolment from 1943 to 1946. Can't see a bryan with a 'Y' recorded.
I was there from 1944 to 1951 then off to Elliot St school.
Bob Steele

 

[Ivor Williams]

I knew a Bob Steele at St Clement's. He was taller than me and had black hair. I last saw him behind the counter of a newsagent shop in Great Barr, Greenholme Road, if memory serves.

 

[mw0njm.]

allcock i think

 

[mw0njm.]

from st clements to bloomsbury to elliot st to work

 

[Phil]

A couple of images of High Park Street I have come across since I last posted to this thread. One is of the Red Lion c1966 which couldn't have been that long before it closed as I believe that was in 1967.

The second photo must date from around that time also by the look of it, it's an aerial view looking down High park Street.

 

[Ivor Williams]

Thanks for the photos, retired layabout. I remember a bloke who regularly stood in the doorway of the pub collecting bits of money wrapped in notepaper on which was written the names of the horses various people thought would win the day's race meeting. It was illegal to bet in the fifties and so the passing of the money was done very quickly with hardly a word spoken between the hopeful punter and the bookie's runner.

 

[Radiorails]

He would be known as a 'bookies runner' I believe.

 

[Ivor Williams]

That's what I said!

 

[Radiorails]

That's what I said!

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[mikeflan]

My wife lived in High Park Street and her relatives lived in Railway Terrace.......she swears she used to look over the railway and see the gas works railway engine called 'Little Red Engine' obvious that if it existed it would have belonged to the Gas works....has anyone else had the recollections of seeing this locomotive ???

 

[mw0njm.]

mikeflan, post: 705354, member: 101"]
My wife lived in High Park Street and her relatives lived in Railway Terrace.......she swears she used to look over the railway and see the gas works railway engine called 'Little Red Engine' obvious that if it existed it would have belonged to the Gas works....has anyone else had the recollections of seeing this locomotive ???
[/QUOTE]
i do. but not red.
Childhood Memories Of Trains

 

[Ivor Williams]

My wife lived in High Park Street and her relatives lived in Railway Terrace.......she swears she used to look over the railway and see the gas works railway engine called 'Little Red Engine' obvious that if it existed it would have belonged to the Gas works....has anyone else had the recollections of seeing this locomotive ???

I went to St Clements School in High Park Street.I left in 1953 aged 15 and it then became an infant and juniors only school.
Any one else out there from that time?
Bryan.

I went to St Clements School in High Park Street.I left in 1953 aged 15 and it then became an infant and juniors only school.
Any one else out there from that time?
Bryan.

I went to St Clements School in High Park Street.I left in 1953 aged 15 and it then became an infant and juniors only school.
Any one else out there from that time?
Bryan.

I went to St Clements School in High Park Street.I left in 1953 aged 15 and it then became an infant and juniors only school.
Any one else out there from that time?
Bryan.

 

[Ivor Williams]

I remember the little red tanker that your wife is on about. I only ever saw it at the bridge over Rocky Lane on the gas works side.

 

[Ivor Williams]

Ivor,
I always found Mr Hill to be a nice man, a very good teacher. Yes the class immediately off the iron staircase was Mr Hill's, The one to the left off that one was the wonderful Mrs Gray and the one to the right as you went in was Mr McAllister's. He only had one eye and wore a leather eye patch over the bad one. He retired and I met him in Erdington high street a few years later after I had finished my national service.
Bryan