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Hi there, Other Half,

I had initially left a lengthy note about my Gladstone ties as an introduction. Once accepted to the site, I cut and pasted it to the MacKie & Gladstone forum...maybe I should have just copied it...Anyway, to save you having to search---

My dad's great grandmother Margaret Gladstone b 1827 at Leadhills, Scotland was a niece of the Gladstone brothers and niece by marriage to Ivie MacKie (his wife was Agnes Halliday Gladstone)---i.e. the wine and spirits merchants behind MacKie and Gladstone-- though I am not sure Margaret ever knew it or them, having been raised in Scotland by her maternal grandmother. Her father John Gladstone and her mother Janet McDonald (a lead miner's daughter) never married...I know who John Gladstone was from the Kirk of Sessions record (1828 at Leadhills), which gives his location...Crossmichael, Kirkcudbrightshire---right in the midst of this Castle Douglas Gladstone family...He would have been born at Wiston, Lanarkshire in 1802, a year before the family moved to Castle Douglas...He died sometime between 1828 and 1841---one source says 1835. Margaret eventually married and immigrated to the US. Anyway, the father of these wine merchant Gladstone's was John Gladstone---an "eminent millwright who died at Castle Douglas," according to the people at the Gladstone Court Museum in Biggar (one source says in 1825). Their mother was Elizabeth Muir. She died in Liverpool in 1841 with some of her wine & spirit merchant sons in her home or living near by, including Thomas Gladstone who ended up living at Edgaston, King's Norton, Birmingham by the late 1840s. You'll find him in the census records there through 1901. The folks at the Gladstone Court Museum say these wine merchants had business ties with the Prime Minister's father---spent time in Jamaica, where he had sugar plantations. ... (a connection about which I have mixed feelings, given that the PM's father held slaves there)....Would be happy for any further information regarding these people and their company and its dealings...Thanks. MJH
 
Thanks for the welcome. Have rewritten my post on the Gladstones and Mackie's--slightly more intelligible and relevant, I hope. Thanks again for the greetings.
 
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