Hartland

[donapr]

Hi Looking for any information re WW1.

My 3 Great Uncles. All brother's:

John Wilson Hartland Royal Worcesters 10th No 235269.

Injured and out of war by 1917. Any info of where he saw action would be great, I have his medal card & pension details. but that is all.

Francis Victor Hartland, Royal Warwickshire Machine gun corp Cavalry. No 28194/ 105337.
Have medal record. He survived the war.

Arthur Horatio Hartland.

The only one I cannot find Information for other then:.
He survived the war, but was injured. & in May 1920 died.His death Cert mentions him being in Ex-Army & that one of the conditions he died from he had, had for 3 years. Otitis Media-Which i understand has link with WW1 trenches.

Any information would be wonderful.
Also Information about there Father; my Great Grand-father. John Francis Hartland. Architect for B'Ham Corp Born 1970 -1920.

 

[Pomgolian]

This looks like your family in 1891:
Place: Aston -Warwickshire
Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical Parish: St Lawrence
Address: 232 Aston Rd

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born HARTLAND John Head M M 46 Builder(Em'er) Gloucestershire - Forthampton
HARTLAND Margaret Wife M F 43 Shropshire - St Martins Moors
HARTLAND John F Son S M 21 Architect(Notem) Shropshire - Oswestry HARTLAND Herbert H Son S M 19 Clerk Surveyors(Em'ee) Shropshire - Oswestry
HARTLAND Edward W Son S M 15 Clerk Surveyors(Em'ee) Warwickshire - Birmingham
HARTLAND Charles H Son S M 11 Scholar Warwickshire - Birmingham
LLOYD Martha Jane Visito S F 17 Domestic Servant Shropshire -

Chris/Pom :angel:

 

[Pomgolian]

Here they are in 1881;
[SIZE=+1]Dwelling 19 Henry St
Census Place Aston, Warwick, England
[/SIZE][SIZE=+1]Household:[/SIZE]
John HARTLAND Head M Male 36 Forthampton, Gloucester, England Builder
Margaret HARTLAND Wife M Female 33 St Martins Moors, Shropshire, England
Martha A. HARTLAND Daur Female 14 Oswestry, Shropshire, England Apprentice (Undef)
John F. HARTLAND Son Male 11 Oswestry, Shropshire, England Scholar
Herbert H. HARTLAND Son Male 9 Oswestry, Shropshire, England Scholar
Edward W. HARTLAND Son Male 5 Birmingham Scholar
Charles H. HARTLAND Son Male 1 Birmingham

 

[Pomgolian]

John and Margaret's marraige:
[SIZE=+1]Marriages Dec 1866 [/SIZE]
HARRISON Margaret Oswestry 6a1347
HARTLAND John Oswestry 6a1347

John Francis's birth;
[SIZE=+1]Births Dec 1869 [/SIZE]
Hartland John Francis Oswestry 6a690

John Francis's marraige:
Marriages Sep 1893
Hartland John Francis Aston 6d360
Wilson Julia Aston 6d360


The Boys Births:
[SIZE=+1]Births Mar 1895 [/SIZE]
Hartland John Wilson Solihull 6d603
[SIZE=+1][/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Births Dec 1896 [/SIZE]
Hartland Francis Victor Aston 6d295

[SIZE=+1]Births Mar 1898 [/SIZE]
HARTLAND Arthur Horatio King's N 6c430

Hope this helps ?

Chris/Pom :angel:

 

[donapr]

Wow Thanks so much,you have taken me back another generation.

Would like to find out more about John F Hartland's G Grand father.

Family stories is he had house's built for all 5 sons in harborne in 1900,and

that he did a lot of work on parts of B'ham city centre.

He however took his own life in 1920; 6 weeks before Arthur died.

 

[Chris_Baker]

donapr, to find out more about the three mens service, you need to get to the next level of detail, which is to determine their units. This can be done by looking them up in the medal rolls. These are documents held at the National Archives. The codes that appear on the medal cards you have tell you which rolls you need to look at.

I see that John served in the 10th Worcesters, at least for some time. Up to June 1918 they were under command of 19th (Western) Division; their history is here (https://www.1914-1918.net/19div.htm). However they were totally rebuilt in the July and I have a suspicion that is when he may have joined them. They were transferred to 40th Division at that time. I have not replaced my page on 40th Division just yet (I am freshening my pages up into a nicer design) but it should be back, on the same website, soon.

Otitis Media is a painful inflammation of the inner ear. I have seen one or two men discharged for this but it is not something specific to trench warfare.

 

[donapr]

Thanks chris, this is the information on John's medal record, I take it from what you say that i need to contact national archive???

Victory L/102 B13 pg 2915.

He seems to have been injured by 1917 and recieved a pension.

Dona

 

[Chris_Baker]

Yep, that's a medal roll reference and I'm afraid the rolls can only be accessed at Kew.