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Hare And Hounds Marsh Hill Erdington
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well lynn
It would not surprize me in the long run as that pub as been for long time dead as far back as i can remember
It started to decline in punter s around the seventy mark as i recall it and the said management
was one of the team that went to dublin to see if they could pick up points on how we could run and inprove
our pubs over here in england , but it never materialied there was twenty of us that went to dublin
as i have previuosly said on other threads about the dublin trip payed for by the brewery
In the early years of its reign the pub was brillient and alway a big earner right up through the fiftys and sixtys
all bars jammed packed with punters but coming into the seventy and eightys the area started to change
along with all its familys and the area declined down
and regards the old folks homes are quite plentyfull now over that way and an ageing population to go with it
I drove up through that way two weks ago and seen the terible run down it was the older cootage homes have gone
And new ones built and i notice the hospital grounds have ventured further more
and right up to erdington 6 ways on the corner where the pub was brillient its now a council built
block like a prison inside i went to visit some one in there quite afew years back it was single guys
and there rooms they called flats was nothink but a prison cells on landing
these was for single girls and boys , { i better change that expression and call them ladies and gentleman ]
And yes there was druggs freely run around as well in there admitting its further on but at the end of the day
Erdington its self as declined and the shopping area as run down as well
many years ago i used to live in orchard road erdinton a great place to live but asked me tday and i will
Tell you no thank you ,
but given the other end around the pub yes i agree let them build more home and and care homes for the needed
old age and disabled people rather trying to build new shops because it aint gonna work
Do you know whether or not banks,s clothing shop still up there just along from the pub ,? .
It would not surprize me in the long run as that pub as been for long time dead as far back as i can remember
It started to decline in punter s around the seventy mark as i recall it and the said management
was one of the team that went to dublin to see if they could pick up points on how we could run and inprove
our pubs over here in england , but it never materialied there was twenty of us that went to dublin
as i have previuosly said on other threads about the dublin trip payed for by the brewery
In the early years of its reign the pub was brillient and alway a big earner right up through the fiftys and sixtys
all bars jammed packed with punters but coming into the seventy and eightys the area started to change
along with all its familys and the area declined down
and regards the old folks homes are quite plentyfull now over that way and an ageing population to go with it
I drove up through that way two weks ago and seen the terible run down it was the older cootage homes have gone
And new ones built and i notice the hospital grounds have ventured further more
and right up to erdington 6 ways on the corner where the pub was brillient its now a council built
block like a prison inside i went to visit some one in there quite afew years back it was single guys
and there rooms they called flats was nothink but a prison cells on landing
these was for single girls and boys , { i better change that expression and call them ladies and gentleman ]
And yes there was druggs freely run around as well in there admitting its further on but at the end of the day
Erdington its self as declined and the shopping area as run down as well
many years ago i used to live in orchard road erdinton a great place to live but asked me tday and i will
Tell you no thank you ,
but given the other end around the pub yes i agree let them build more home and and care homes for the needed
old age and disabled people rather trying to build new shops because it aint gonna work
Do you know whether or not banks,s clothing shop still up there just along from the pub ,? .
hi alan i have used the hare and hounds for quite a few years now and to be honest i have always found it ok..used to take the kids there when they were little as they had a nice play area out the back...in recent years taken over by the hungry horse ..nice refurb job ..plenty of customers and the food was great..
the only banks shop i know round there is john banks big and tall menswear and its quite a distance from the hare and hounds its on slade road not marsh hill..
lyn
the only banks shop i know round there is john banks big and tall menswear and its quite a distance from the hare and hounds its on slade road not marsh hill..
lyn
yes thats correct banks abit further up the road i know the area very well and my first wife i married was off the estate behind the very pub hair and hounds and my cousin openend a whole sale butchers supply years ago after the originale butchers was there before him
Pedrocut
Master Barmmie
Alan, as I lived within a spit of the Hare and Hounds for around 50 years, I am a bit puzzled by your post.
I used the Hare and Hounds on and off until around 1990, and found it quite all right. I wouldn't consider the area to have declined. If you take the H and H as a local you would be looking up Marsh Hill to the Stockland and in the opposite direction to the Yew Tree or the Safe Harbour. In the other directions maybe to what once was the Crossways or the Chase, and the Armarda.
I believe the problem facing the H and H, as far as punters were concerned, and for most of the years up to 1990, was the proximity of the Brookvale Social Club, and more particularly the Barn Social Club, which I believe was once considered the biggest in Birmingham.
I used the Hare and Hounds on and off until around 1990, and found it quite all right. I wouldn't consider the area to have declined. If you take the H and H as a local you would be looking up Marsh Hill to the Stockland and in the opposite direction to the Yew Tree or the Safe Harbour. In the other directions maybe to what once was the Crossways or the Chase, and the Armarda.
I believe the problem facing the H and H, as far as punters were concerned, and for most of the years up to 1990, was the proximity of the Brookvale Social Club, and more particularly the Barn Social Club, which I believe was once considered the biggest in Birmingham.
Pedrocut
Master Barmmie
The lack of punters is a problem that many pubs have faced, and sadly a great number have fallen by the wayside. I don't think that the Chase had any effect on the Hare and Hounds. I had many great friends from the estate, which according to a link in the Thread about the pub, was known as the Birmingham Bronx, who would have chosen to walk down to the Hare and Hounds than go into the Chase.
If you look at the 1887 OS Map for the nearest Hostelries to the Hare and Hounds you would find the Yew Tree Inn, the Red Lion at the end of Marsh Lane, the Golden Cross at Short Heath, and the Erdington Arms (the Muckman) at Salford.
Looking for the earliest references for these pubs I came up with...
Hare and Houinds 1848
The Yew Tree 1859
The Golden Cross 1869
The Red Lion 1863
And the oldest ref for the Muckman was 1834!
If you look at the 1887 OS Map for the nearest Hostelries to the Hare and Hounds you would find the Yew Tree Inn, the Red Lion at the end of Marsh Lane, the Golden Cross at Short Heath, and the Erdington Arms (the Muckman) at Salford.
Looking for the earliest references for these pubs I came up with...
Hare and Houinds 1848
The Yew Tree 1859
The Golden Cross 1869
The Red Lion 1863
And the oldest ref for the Muckman was 1834!
JackiePritchatt
master brummie
On dog walk as I was passing, the Hare & Hounds PH has finally been demolished ready for the care home.
JackiePritchatt
master brummie
Yes Lyn, I have had a few meals in there. It's the Village Green to be our local. It is a shame it's gone.
JackiePritchatt
master brummie
I must of seen him in passing.
Lady Penelope
master brummie
We passed the Hare & Hounds on the way back from work today. I've always had a soft spot for this pub Mom went in to labour with me there!
www.midlandspubs.co.uk
Pub Historian
I was not planning to type up my notes for this pub today but I got diverted again from the Villa Tavern. Here is a little bit of history for the Hare and Hounds :
https://www.midlandspubs.co.uk/birmingham/erdington/hare-and-hounds.htm
https://www.midlandspubs.co.uk/birmingham/erdington/hare-and-hounds.htm
www.midlandspubs.co.uk
Pub Historian
Pedrocut
Master Barmmie
Jeremiah and Linnaeus (and maybe a son also Linnaeus) were associated with a few pubs in the area, although I am not sure who was where. The Hare and Hounds, the Greyhound, the Golden Cross, the Britannia by Aston Station, and the Taylford? Arms.
www.midlandspubs.co.uk
Pub Historian
Yes, I have put some of this on my page at : https://www.midlandspubs.co.uk/birmingham/erdington/hare-and-hounds.htm
JackiePritchatt
master brummie
This is the new Care Home Abbey Rose, it replaces the old Hare & Hounds. It's not up and running just putting the final touches and recruiting new staff. 
