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Great Russell Street

great photo K to add to the ones i already have...its a total disaster at just how many pubs many of them strong buildings that we have lost not just in brum but all over the country..very sad

lyn
 
My mom, Florence Keats was born at 5 back of 96 Great Russell Street to David and Annie Keats. He was a metal polisher. They had many children, with names such as David, George and Annie
 
Dianad said:
My mom, Florence Keats was born at 5 back of 96 Great Russell Street to David and Annie Keats. He was a metal polisher. They had many children, with names such as David, George and Annie
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I don't know if you have a map, but this is the house.
 

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Dianad said:
My mom, Florence Keats was born at 5 back of 96 Great Russell Street to David and Annie Keats. He was a metal polisher. They had many children, with names such as David, George and Annie
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This is the only image I can find unfortunately.
 

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Jayell said:
Hi John - would you be able to show Court 26 in Gt Russell Street on that map? My 2 x Gt.Grandparents lived there from about 1851 until after 1871. Fingers crossed!
Thanks Judy
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Hi Judy,
I think I have located it but the numbering is very small, just need to check it against the census, can you give me a name for a look-up please.
 
Jayell said:
Hi John - would you be able to show Court 26 in Gt Russell Street on that map? My 2 x Gt.Grandparents lived there from about 1851 until after 1871. Fingers crossed!
Thanks Judy
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Had to go to an 1890 map to find it, not showing on the 1950s map.
 

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brummy-lad said:
This is the only image I can find unfortunately.
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That's brilliant thankyou. I've been digging around as I've been given a box with my mom's birth certificate and marriage certificate and have addresses from which I can begin to piece some history together. Sadly mom died in 1985, but dad is still with us. Alive and kicking is how he'd describe himself!
 
This post is in reply to a query by member Turner64. Hi Paul, I have attached 1890 and 1950s map, I'm not convinced that there was a back of 86, 2 house, No. 86 as you say was 'Justice Inn'. Looking at censuses for 1881, 1891 & 1901 there are no back houses mentioned, looking at the map the buildings behind No. 86 do not appear to be typical houses, unless it was a private arrangement with the pub landlord to rent part of the pub but in that case they would still have to appear on the census.
Is there a possibility (given the style of handwriting) that it is '36' and not '86' ?
Incidentally, there were numerous Hill families in Gt. Russell Street including another Joseph at 9 house Court 38 (1911) but his wife's name was Martha.
 

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This post is in reply to a query by member Turner64. Hi Paul, I have attached 1890 and 1950s map, I'm not convinced that there was a back of 86, 2 house, No. 86 as you say was 'Justice Inn'. Looking at censuses for 1881, 1891 & 1901 there are no back houses mentioned, looking at the map the buildings behind No. 86 do not appear to be typical houses, unless it was a private arrangement with the pub landlord to rent part of the pub but in that case they would still have to appear on the census.
Is there a possibility (given the style of handwriting) that it is '36' and not '86' ?
Incidentally, there were numerous Hill families in Gt. Russell Street including another Joseph at 9 house Court 38 (1911) but his wife's name was Martha.
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Hi John, thank you for the maps. No the baptism record is very clearly “ back of 86 2 house” and this Joesph Hill was married to Mary Ann Hill
Paul
 
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Hi John, thank you for the maps. No the baptism record is very clearly “ back of 86 2 house” and this Joesph Hill was married to Mary Ann Hill
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It's difficult to imagine 2 houses at the back of Justice Inn unless they were actually part of the pub, perhaps other members can throw some light on this.
 
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It's difficult to imagine 2 houses at the back of Justice Inn unless they were actually part of the pub, perhaps other members can throw some light on this.
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I agree it’s difficult to imagine. I’ve sat staring at the map trying to work out any computations that might possibly fit the record.
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could i ask what year the above baptism was...just wondered if there was a renumbering of the street

lyn
 
An aerial view of Justice Inn from 1948, there certainly seems to be more buildings at the back than what are showing on the map.
 

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I agree Paul, the only thing I don't understand is why those back houses don't show on any censuses, unless they were part of the Justice Inn and occupants were included in that list of residents. It's good that you have access to several good quality images of the Justice Inn though.
 
brummy-lad said:
This post is in reply to a query by member Turner64. Hi Paul, I have attached 1890 and 1950s map, I'm not convinced that there was a back of 86, 2 house, No. 86 as you say was 'Justice Inn'. Looking at censuses for 1881, 1891 & 1901 there are no back houses mentioned, looking at the map the buildings behind No. 86 do not appear to be typical houses, unless it was a private arrangement with the pub landlord to rent part of the pub but in that case they would still have to appear on the census.
Is there a possibility (given the style of handwriting) that it is '36' and not '86' ?
Incidentally, there were numerous Hill families in Gt. Russell Street including another Joseph at 9 house Court 38 (1911) but his wife's name was Martha.
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Hi brummy - lad
I cant remember if I have contributed to your previous exchanges in relation to the above, but I thought I would add my 2 penneth. My wife who sadly passed away just 2 years ago lived at 4 back of 193 in Great Russel Street and we met at our place of work which was William Newman and Sons just along the road in Hospital Street. We moved to Newquay in Cornwall in 1978, so due to a combination of age and failing memory I am unable to contribute regularly but I still look forward to catch up with the latest contributions. Hope the content might be of interest, my wife was a Griffiths father was Jim mother Nell and sister Ellen.
 
Hi Derek, I’m so sorry to hear of your loss, responses to any thread are always welcome, it’s amazing how many times these are found to be useful, if not now they may be at some future date, so keep them coming when you are able.
 
hi derek there are lot of old photos on the thread of gt russell st some show the back houses which you may recognise

lyn
 
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