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Great King Street

hi robb as you say such a shame the old chapel went...i take it you have seen the pics of it that are on the forum...think there are two of them...

lyn
Yes Lyn. It's great to see all the old pics of the area on this Forum. I lived 3/128 Bridge St. West, moved to 66 Well St when I was about 11 and then to Gerrard St. in 1963. Rob
 
Yes Lyn. It's great to see all the old pics of the area on this Forum. I lived 3/128 Bridge St. West, moved to 66 Well St when I was about 11 and then to Gerrard St. in 1963. Rob

and im from villa street rob...born in paddington st moved to villa when i was about 5...ive just phoned my brother up and told him about his life boys records being on the net...hes gob smacked so ive saved them and printed them off for him...he remembers those days so well.my grandparents had a little shop at 22 well st ...also take it that you have seen all the bridge st west photos..would hate you to miss any...

lyn
 
and im from villa street rob...born in paddington st moved to villa when i was about 5...ive just phoned my brother up and told him about his life boys records being on the net...hes gob smacked so ive saved them and printed them off for him...he remembers those days so well.my grandparents had a little shop at 22 well st ...also take it that you have seen all the bridge st west photos..would hate you to miss any...

lyn
Yes thanks Lyn, but this site has grown so large that I keep finding threads that I have not read and your many pictures are great. Thanks again Rob
 
and im from villa street rob...born in paddington st moved to villa when i was about 5...ive just phoned my brother up and told him about his life boys records being on the net...hes gob smacked so ive saved them and printed them off for him...he remembers those days so well.my grandparents had a little shop at 22 well st ...also take it that you have seen all the bridge st west photos..would hate you to miss any...

lyn
Yes, thanks Lyn, but this site has grown so large I keep finding new threads I have not seen before!
My son is scanning all the 1st A BB pictures and memorabilia and loading them on flickr ready for the centenary next year. Glad your brother found his name on one of the Life Boy roll books. Unfortunately many of them have not survived. Thanks again for all your pictures. Rob
 
bri and rob i posted this ariel shot on the lucas thread but looking at it again surely thats the peoples chapel towards the bottom left also showing the rooms at the back of it that bri mentioned some time back...i never stop learning about the old end..
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Thanks Lyn. Yes that is the old People's Chapel with a good view of the 3 storey school rooms.
lucasschoolPC.jpgThats my (old) home! Labelled with the locations of my first 2 homes, my primary school and People's Chapel. Rob
 
thanks for the labelled pic rob...im still on the hunt for a good pic of harry lucas school...the ariel shot of it is the best we have so far..i see that you didnt live that far away from from grandparents shop at 22 well st...here is a not very good pic of the shop.to the far left of the pic with the advert on the wall..that would be smith st on the right..

lyn
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Brian. A few years ago we went to Key Hill cemetery with the Boys' brigade lads and a list of the Founders to see how many we could find. Found John Skirrow Wright and. I think, one other but if you know the locations of some of the others it would be great to repeat the exercise next spring/summer with the present members, especially as it is the 1st A BB centenary year. (You probably saw the list of the 40 founders - https://www.peopleschapel.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/History/ThePeople.html ) I also have the names of some of the other early members who may be in Key Hill. Rob
Hi Rob,
I joined up with the Friends of Key Hill after the 1st A had been, so missed that, but saw it mentioned. At that time I printed off the Founders from the Chapel website and searched the KH Index for matching names. It was passed to the Committee at the time as a possible research item. The info seems tohave 'been lost' with other stuff when some people sneaked away and later formed their own little group - gathering info, rather than practical help to retain/restore the cemeteries.
If I get a chance, may try and repeat the exercise. Having an index only as we officially do, all we can do is match up similar names. Does the Chapel have records of Funeral Servives, or notes of dates/years of death of the Founders in their minutes? I assume these records are still with the Chapel or are they lodged in the Library in packing crates?

It's a pity the early-mid '60's were such a time of demolition. They eventually realised they were demolishing faster than new building was occurring and much of Lozells was 'saved' - Eventual;ly realised that rewire, reroof, damp-proof and build a bathroom was an easier and cheaper option - the houses up between Gerard St and Lozells road have proved that they by lasting for another 50 years - and still going strong.
Had the Chapel managed to hold on for a decade, it would have been probably listed - with some money spent on it - clean & repair, slight upgrade - it would be a lovely jewell in the area - St pauls in the Jewellery Quarter has survived and is still a really pretty place.
Brian
 
Thanks Brian. We do have some old minute books at the Chapel but the very first one (or possibly two) are lodged with the Library and won't be accessible fo some time. I do have some information on the early members in a spread sheet I researched for the 150th in 1998 so I will post a list of what I have.
This sounds like a super project for the Boys' Brigade lads (and they could help with another clean up at the same time). If you are able to regenerate the information from the records you have access to, we could search and photograph - but it sounds like a job for when we have lighter evenings. Rob
 
The Indexes we have, thanks to the Birmingham & Midland Society for Genealogy & heraldry photographing the Burial Registers, transcribing & computerising them - are alphabetical by Surname, than by Christian name/Initials, Year of Burial. They have the Grave Section/Number and a unique Burial Register number (starting at 1 - currently at 60,044).
I labouriously copied from PDF's and typed into a Word Document - printed out and available to view 7 days a week at the Pen Museum in Frederick St.
Would any of the lads like to check your list of Founders names against the Index one weekend? See how many we names we can match up?
Cannot guarentee it is the actual Founders until we have a date for the death/burial - but it's a start.
Could it count towards a badge of some sort - I assume they still do things for badges, these days?
Brian
 
Thanks Brian. Sounds great. I will generate some enthusiasm and prepare lists for a Saturday morning, probably in January if that is possible. Do we need to book? rob
 
Museum is free to go in - well worth a trip one day in it's own right.
The Carl Chinn Library room is a recent addition - lots of books on local history as well as pens - just ask to be directed to the Key Hill shelf - books are there to be viewed - both key Hill & Warstone Lane Indexes
Colin Giles is on duty at weekends - he is Chairman of the Friends - very helpful as well as knowledgeable.
 
Hi , im john stone , I used to live across the rd from the boys brigade in great king street . The boys brigade was run by a high court judge named judge finimore . Being a mischievous lad of around 10 , when the boys brigade were gathered , I used to keep throwing the mains light switch located by the front door and plunge the place into darkness , im sure the judge would have strung me up if he caught me !
 
Hi folks , I'm john stone , I was born at 3 back of 213 great king street in June 1950 . My house was right next door to the bell pub and next door to me , lived the sewels who ran the paper shop . Opposite was another pub possibly called the George and dragon ? , and on the two opposing corners were a butchers and a café . As you went down great king street towards Lucas's on the right side , just below the butchers , was a welding factory which was next door to my aunt Jane and uncle albert (my moms brother) . just a few yards below them was the hall where the boys brigade used to meet . It was run by a high court Jude named Judge Finimore , I used to throw the outside mains light switch when they used to meet and plunge the place into darkness , I was just a mischievous 8 year old at the time . On the last corner was another café , and I recall a large Twinnings tea advert painted on the wall above the door , it was the one with a girl drinking a cup of tea wearing a large black and white dress wearing a hat . On the opposite corner was the queens pub . Does anyone share the same memories ?
 
hello john and welcome to the forum...thanks for sharing some of your memories of gt king st..if you have any old photos of around there we would love to see them

lyn
 
Hello John welcome to the forum. I enjoyed reading your post and look forward to hearing more of your memories of the area :adoration:
 
Sadly I don't have any pictures , I was hoping to see a photo of the entry to my house 3/213 , which is on the right side as your going up great king street , theres a shop just a few yards from the bell pub that was on the entrance to my entry , it's just before you get to new john st . I must admit that I am finding the site difficult to navigate around , I only managed to reply because I clicked on the link when I received an email off you
 
hi john you are doing fine...it always takes time to find your way around a new forum...im afraid photos of gt king st are a bit thin on the ground but i will keep my eyes open for you...what schools did you go to ??

lyn
 
I started my school years at was was harry lucas but it was called burbury street school in the mid 50's , I then went to anglesley street school for a few years , then went back to what was then harry lucas and remained there untill I was 15 in 1965 . I do find the site difficult to navigate around , the only way I could reply to you was by clicking on the link on my email , otherwise I just don't know how to get back to a specific page . Are you local and what school did you go to ? where did you live ?
 
hi john i was born in paddington st just off summer lane moving to villa st when i was about 6...went to farm st infants and juniors and then onto lozells girls school...anglesley st school is still there..

lyn
 
Hi John,I think this newspaper cutting shows the stretch of Gt King street during demolition in the 60s.moss
 

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Although paddington street is just a 10 minute walk from great king street , it would have been like climbing mountains and crossing rivers for a 6 or 7 year old boy to get there . As you probably realise , we lived in a very confined area and didn't venture far out of it . Yes , anglesly street school is still there , it's one of the few remaining parts of my childhood / youth that still remains , it sadens me thats it's all gone but the memories are still vivid
 
Thats a fantastic picture ! thank you so much for posting it , i would love to see the same aspect but from the butchers side looking down towads Lucas's . I have been to the central library many times looking for photos of a specific place , and although they have a great array of photos , they dont have one of my entry etc . I sugges you go there and sound them out , you wont be disappointed
 
John, This is the best I can do for Great King St three corner photos and two of those public houses.
 

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At least that puts my mind to rest about the name of the pub ........... it WAS the george and dragon , the photo was clearly taken from the bell which i lived directly next door to around the back . Thank you for your post , im getting closer by the day to seeing my entry leading to my house , which was 3 back of 213 great king street
 
Phil, do you know who holds the copyright for the 3rd pic (with the 2 ladies talking). I would like to do a painting based on that one . Eric
 
Thats a fantastic picture ! thank you so much for posting it , i would love to see the same aspect but from the butchers side looking down towads Lucas's . I have been to the central library many times looking for photos of a specific place , and although they have a great array of photos , they dont have one of my entry etc . I sugges you go there and sound them out , you wont be disappointed

hi john..unless you already know this a little tip for you when you next visit the archives at the library...ask them to search through their public works dept photos and also the regeneration of birmingham photos...the public works dept took pics of most of the streets before demo and this is where i found pics of paddington st last year including one of the house where i was born...as these photos do not usually come under the data protection act you should be able to get copies from the library or take pics of them with your camera for a small charge...



lyn
 
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Great King Street

Hello all.
Im posting this on behalf of an elderly friend .His mother lived on the above street and worked for lucus..but had seen many photographs of the factory's but however has never seen any of the housed end of the street .
Has anyone ever came across any pictures of Gt Kings street houses or could you point me in the right direction to do so..I have looked on this site but havent come up with any as yet.

Any help would be most kind.

All the best

Paul.
 
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hi folks as you know photos of this street are so scarce...all we have has been posted but i do have a new one to add...gt king st at the corner with barr st

lyn

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