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I am looking for my husband's ancestor, Robert Gough in census before 1871.
He married Matilda Ashton 17 May 1865 and said he was a Bridle Maker living at 108 Bell Barn Road Birmingham. His father was stated to be William Gough, a gardener (deceased). In 1871, Robert, Matilda and 3 children are living at 2 Bristol Road and Robert is a Pocket Book Maker. After Matilda died, Robert married Alice Fenney and lived at Latimer St. At marriage, Robert stated he was 19yrs old, but the census are consistent for a birth year of 1848 London Middlesex. It seems that Robert Gough was lodging with the Robbins family (John Robbins and Pamela Ann Crew) at 108 Bell Barn Road when he married in 1865. John Robbins was a Pocket Book Maker. Pamela Ann Crew was born about 1833 London, so I am hoping there is a connection to Pamela, although I cannot find her in 1841. She was mostly known as Ann in later census.
Hoping someone can help me to find Robert in earlier census with his parents.
Thanks very much,
Judy Jones
 
Gough, Robbins, Fenney

Judy,

I'm sorry to note - and slightly surprised bearing in mind the depth of knowledge in this forum - that you have have had no response to your postings on ROBBINS and GOUGH. If I express my sympathy at least it will bring you back to the top of the list and someone might have another think!

You mention an ALICE FENNEY. I have two Fenney women, Maria b. around 1822 and Eliza, rather younger, in my mother's Tovey/Brown/Fenney line; but little else on their origins which seem obscure. Eliza married a James Brown, a thimble maker of Sherlock Street, Birmingham and became my gt.grandmother. Have you done any work on this surname?

Chris
 
Gough, Robbins, Fenney

Hi Chris!

Thanks for your reply. I have since found Pamela Ann Crew in 1841 London, but can find no connection to Robert Gough who has become a real challenge!

Responding to your Fenney question - yes, I have done a little research on this family in the hope it lead me to Robert - but, alas, nothing. This is what I have gathered on the Fenneys.

Samuel Fenney = Harriet Moseley 3 Dec 1832 Edgbaston Warwickshire
Children born Birmingham:
Samuel b 1833
Charles b 1835
Edward b 1837
Richard b 1840
Alfred b 1844
Alice b Dec 1849

I have all the census records for them. Father, Samuel died in 1857. I can check for your family if you wish - or have you already done so? It is possible that Maria and Eliza were sisters of Samuel Sr who was born about 1808 Birmingham. I have not ventured further back with the Fenneys at this stage.

Best wishes, Judy
 
Fenney

Thanks for your response, Judy.

My late brother did an immense amount of work on our various family lines, in the days before the internet, indexing and so on. I suspect that were he active on all this now, some of the brick walls might well be knocked down. I am not into serious genealogy - not a subscriber to Ancestry etc, - and just occasionally tinker around on the edges. But I have always noted that it is our Fenney line which seems the most unsatisfactory in terms of what we do and don't know and if there is anything in it which rings a bell with you, I should be most grateful to hear it.

This is were my brother got to.

- My mother (1899-1995) was a Tovey.
- Her father George Thomas Tovey (1871-1949) married in 1891 Rebecca Brown (1871-1945) although the marriage broke up in the very early 1900s.
- Rebecca Brown had a sister Clara who was born in 1868. Their mother was Eliza Fenney (birthdate unknown); she had married a James Brown (again all details unknown). My brother identified a possible sister of Eliza in Maria Fenney (b.1822). She has been described as such because in the 1891 Clara (aged 22) and Rebecca (19) are shown as living with Maria (69) as Maria's nieces. But it sounds as though the age difference makes this unlikely and that Maria was a great-aunt of the two girls and thus Eliza's own aunt.

My brother drew a complete blank on the Browns/Fenneys apart from the above and in particular never found details of Eliza's birth. He wondered about Irish ancestry but was able to establish nothing. The Brown line was also impenetrable due to the commonness of the name and lack of indexing.

Any thoughts at all would be most welcome.

Chris
 
Fenney

I should also have said that everything we have relates to Birmingham. The 1891 entry refers to Barford Street where Maria was a grocer.

Chris
 
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