This cutting about the Restall history mentions a number of changes to the premises. Source: British Newspaper Archive. Viv.
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Ghost signs of Birmingham
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brianthelion
master brummie
Have been reading the planning application documents from 2018 which were very illuminating. As we suspected the buildings were originally set back. In fact if you look at the photo below the two storey bit behind the single storey frontage is the original building line here. I’ve attached a link to the full report for anyone who has acrobat….if it works!
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yes thanks brian as suspected most of the original buildings were set back...i was only looking at the one behind the clifden again on st view the other day and wondered what its used for ..surely its not part of the pub or is it...i used to work there and i dont know...need to investigate when i can
lyn
lyn
brianthelion
master brummie
The heritage report I attached has a lot of detail so your answer might be in there somewhere!
brummy-lad
master brummie
What an incredible and informative document, the images taken in the derelict workshops have to be seen to be believed. It makes you realise why so much is being demolished but I do wonder if the original frontage had not been extended outwards would the original buildings have become listed properties.Have been reading the planning application documents from 2018 which were very illuminating. As we suspected the buildings were originally set back. In fact if you look at the photo below the two storey bit behind the single storey frontage is the original building line here. I’ve attached a link to the full report for anyone who has acrobat….if it works!
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brianthelion
master brummie
Might be me I'm no teccy either but the link looked like it worked. It's an acrobat file.
If not you can find it on the planning online site. I'll add the reference later. Teatime now!
brummy-lad
master brummie
The link worked ok on my PC
thank you brian i would like to be able to read it
brianthelion
master brummie
2018/10135/PA on planning portal takes you to all the documents.
got it now brian...oh my oh my...how interesting but i doubt very much if that building behind the clifden will be saved
john i cringe at the word LISTED means nothing to me these days...if a building is in the way it will go no matter how listed it is...its a good job we have this forum full of like minded people to bring what is left of our history to the fore
lyn
john i cringe at the word LISTED means nothing to me these days...if a building is in the way it will go no matter how listed it is...its a good job we have this forum full of like minded people to bring what is left of our history to the fore
lyn
brianthelion
master brummie
A lot of the buildings are in such poor condition I can actually understand having to let them go but as you say we need to do all we can to record and preserve memories for future generations. I'm not from Birmingham originally and only moved into JQ in 2006 but I'm as interested as anyone in the past. Others will follow in years to come, hopefully they will benefit from this and other groups efforts.
i agree with you brian...most of the original buildings left standing are most likely 200 years old and in a very bad state so yes its up to us and others to try and record what is going on now so that future generations may benefit and who knows when other buildings along gt hampton row are demolished we maybe treated to yet more old ghost signs long forgotten
lyn
lyn
brianthelion
master brummie
As Shaw Taylor would say "Keep 'em peeled"!
brianthelion
master brummie
The Lamp Works which will be filling the gap where the demolition revealed the ghost signs. No hope of saving them so go see whilst you may.
brianthelion
master brummie
The developers/contractors on Great Hampton St now exposed the cellar and furnaces under part of the Lampworks and have done a cracking photo of the ghost sign I couldn't get from my side of the compound fence.
Any detail on Strawbridge (maybe an s but can't see the end) painter and glazier of 30 Great Hampton St will be most welcome!
Any detail on Strawbridge (maybe an s but can't see the end) painter and glazier of 30 Great Hampton St will be most welcome!
brianthelion
master brummie
And to be fair the developers have employed specialist architectural heritage photographers and conservators.
brianthelion
master brummie
As of an hour ago yes!
Richard Dye
master brummie
Brian, what wonderful photo and SO much history. As they say if only the walls (and cellars) could talk!
Thank you!
Thank you!
this is where the developers must have got the name from fro the new building thats going up called the lamp works..although the original lamp works was on the corner of gt hampton st and hockley st i guess its close enough
Andy1
master brummie
What a great find, that is brilliant.
its an old ghost sign...this from 1877 although its lovely to see these old sign revealed so sad that they will most likely go forever now
brianthelion
master brummie
Useless lot, I wanted a quote for redecorating my apartment and not even in the phone book!!!!
Richard Dye
master brummie
Such a wonderful look into our history, what & how things were! For me they conjure up what real life was back then, if we could only capture the moment.
The photos taken by Forum members are a blessing, they keep our history alive and available!
Pedrocut
Master Barmmie
In September 1997 the Birmingham Post reports that Wimbush will take over the premises of what used to be Austin Reed on the corner of New Street and Cannon Street. The present Google Earth picture doesn’t give any idea of what may have been written above the window on the corner.
brianthelion
master brummie
some general insurance company ltd which hopefully someone else can trace to the location as I can’t make out the precise name!
brianthelion
master brummie
brianthelion
master brummie
and there we have it…..The Fine Art and General Insurance Company as per the window! Austin Reed moved in during 1913 and this is a 1926 image when the upper floors were “remodelled“ according to the RIBA website.