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Astonian

gone but not forgotten
I am traceing my Family Tree And i am looking for Imforation On My Great Grand Father GEORGE William Jelf From Aston
Last Known Address Tyburn road Erdington And His Sons From Parliment Street Aston Cross Great Grand Father Died on 16TH Sept 1935
i believe he was a resturant owner of one or two premises


signed
astonian
 
the Jelfs are well known in Aston for cafes and fish and chip shops they lived in the same street as myself Parliament street they  lived in the posh end we lived in the back to backs I will ask our kid about them as he as a better memory than me, I think he had quite a few shops i know of two in Park lane I will have a browse through our Kelly's collection later for you
 
We have already had either an article or post regarding Jelf's sometime ago from one of the Jelf family, John you know your way round the site better than me perhaps you can pinpoint it for Astonian.
 
If you type Jelf into the search box at the top of the page it should point you to previous postings. O0
 
I am writing to ask is there any old boys still around or ladies, that used to work at fort
dunlop in 1935 and use to use great grand dads /grandmothers jelf cafe shop on tyburn road erdington

the reason i am asking is becuase i have check the old bham mail arhives for 1935
and in the deaths columns i found his name in the obituaries
where upon the family wish to thank all Relatives, Friends, Druids, and work people
of dunlop rubber co. LTD.

for their kind sympathy and foral tributes in there bereavement.
and there for could they cast their memory back thru time and recall
what type of person they was? or what they looked liked?
also could somebody tell me what was the druids? i am told they were grandmasters
or is there any other sibling alive today who could give me any information


i have scanned copy of this cutting from the obituaries column
Dated: 23/9/1935. hoping it may jogg somebody memories of dunlop retired workers

ob16er.gif


many thanks again :) to john houghton

best wishes astonian
 
more info open file to look
i have had a chat with my brother he told me that my Nan knew the Jelfs as they lived in the same street(Parliament Street) as my Nan is no longer with us thats now a dead end the other thing he told me was the there was a dining room/s in 105 Aston road north corner of Rocky lane called A.Jelf which also hired crockery I have verified the address in Kelly's 1933 and it's correct was he Georges brother or a relation as my Nan said she knew Arthur will have to check out more dates for you
 
just checked 1950 Kelly's two shops in Park lane 235 Dining rooms 237 fish fryers both owned by Ernest Jelf that would be on the right hand side looking towards Aston Cross
 
this is Park lane circa 1960's the two shops Jelfs owned are by the van unloading on the right you can just make out the shops the white building Lathams you can just make out the name in the middle of the picture is 105 Aston Road North which used to be Jelfs dining rooms (previous thread)
 
MANY THANKS JOHN FOR THE DOWN LOAD OF THE PICTURE

MY MOM WAS BORN AT NUMBER 4 PARIMENT STREET IN THE 1920 HER NAME WAS JOYCE JELF THE ONLY DAUGHTER TO ERNESTJELF HER MOM WAS BERTHA VICTORIA HINTON, HER FATHER WAS A POLICE OFFICIER MY MOM WENT TO A PRIVATE GIRL SCHOOL IN HANDSWORTH IN THE 1920 TO 1930, JOHN YOU SAID THEY LIVED IN THE POSH END WHAT WAS THOSE HOUSE,S LIKE ,// HAVE YOU GOT ANY PHOTO,S OF THEM HOUSE,S
MY MOM WAS ALSO A STAGE DANCER AT THE ASTON HIPO DROME, SHE DANCED WITH TROUPE CALLED HARRY LEVINE DANCE TROUPE , BY THE WAY YOU WAS RIGHT ARTUR WAS ERNEST OLDER BROTHER,THERE WAS OTHER BROTHERS THERE NAMES WAS GEORGE , HENRY , ARTHER , ERNEST WILLIAM AN IVY , THE SISTER, HER SHOP WAS THE LAST REMAINGELF PROPERTY IN BIRMINGHAM OF THE JELF EMPIRE OF COFFEE HOUSES THE SHOP STOOD THERE FOR 100 YEARS IT WAS BUILT BY THERE FATHER THE LATE WILLIAM GEORGE JELF. WHO PASSED IT TO HIS WIFE IN 1935 , WHOM THEN PASSED IT WIFE MARY ANN HUGHES WHOM DIED 16 SEPT 1945 WHO INTURN PASSES TO HENRY JELF THE OLDEST SON BECAUSE GEORGE HAD DIED PREVIOUSLY HENRY HAD HIS OWN BUSSINESS RESUART AND BOOKING OFFICE AT 91 ALMA STREET ASTON AS HE WAS GIVEN THE POSTION OF TRUSTEE FOR THE BUSSINESS HE PASSED IT TO IVY AND SHE HAD IT FROM 1946 UNTIL SHE DIED IN THE GENERAL HOSPITAL BIRMINGHAM 1988 SHE NEVER HAD A BUSSINESS. BEFORE ALL HER BROTHERS HAD A LOT SHOPS BETWEEN THM, IT WAS THERE FATHER WHO MADE ALL THE BUSSINESSES FOR THEM, THERE FATHER WAS A WEALTHY MAN FROM BRETAFORD COW HONEY WORCESTER,

HE WAS A JUDGE AND MAGISTRATE IN BIRNINGHAM AND WORC, HENRY AND GEORGE , WAS SPECIAL JURRIORS IN SPECIAL BIG CASES THOMAS JELF WAS GEORGE WILLIAM JELF FATHER AND THOMAS FATHER WAS GEORGE EDWARD JELF WHOM CAME FROM WORC, AND ON HIS FIRST CASE SENTENCE A WILLIAM YARNOLD TO DEATH BY HANGING AND HE SENT FOR HENRY PIEREPOINT FROM BRADFORD TO GO TO WORC JAIL TO CARRY OUT THE EXECUTEION ON 4TH NOVEMBER 1905, FOR THE MURDER OF HIS WIFE WHOM HE STABBED TO DEATH , JOHN, IF YOU CAME TO HONEY BOURNE , BRETAFORD WORC , AND INKERBOUW EVERSHAM YOU WOULD HEAR FROM THE LOCALVILLAGES HOW THE JELFS NAME IS RESPECTED AND THAT THEY OWN ALL TH LAND,AROUND TODAY . I WAS SPEAKING TO A BUSSINESS LADY NOT SO LONG AGO WHOM AS LIVED ALL HER LIFE IN SELLY PARK BIRMINGHAM SHE HIS GETTING ON ABIT NOW, HER NAME HIS A MRS BUTTS, SHE RAN A NEWS AGENTS NEXT TO THE BBC AT PEBBLE MILL, AND SHE TOLD ME THAT THE JELFS DONE ALLTHE CATERING FOR ALLTHE HIGH SOCIETY PEOPLE AN D WHEN YOU GOT MARRIED THAT WAS THE PEOPLE OF THE FASHION THEY SUPPLIED ALL THE FOOD AND WAITRESS SERVICES IT WAS IN THEME ONLY COMPETITION WAS JOE LYONS ,
INCIDENDLY I WAS BORN AT 5 BACK 92 LICHFIELD ROAD ASTON NEXT TO THOMPSONS THE BUTCHERS, 1946, I NOW LIVE IN WORCESTER, AND I LOVE COMING BACK TO ASTON AND WALKING AROND AND RELIVING MY MEMORIES,


BEST WISHES ASTONIAN ,
 
Hi John Great Pic' Just passed what I think is the Pub on the left of the pic' would have been my Nan's house 230 Park Lane. There was a little walled in garden front, and some steps up to her front door. However we never went in that way we had to use the side door up the entry next to the little garden.

Chris :angel:
 
A good history of your family Astonian. :)

I'm sure my father would have known the cafe near Fort Dunlop, as he worked there from WW1 until he retired in 1967. I drove past there last week, there is very little left from the old days, the Fort is shrouded in scaffold, and is going to be a hotel I think.
 
in reply to Astonian my Nan lived at number 6 Parliament street Aston so they where neighbours the houses that side of the road where terrace houses Two bedrooms, living room at the front of the house with a parlour to the rear, there was a large seperate kitchen, outside toilet not shared.a seperate entrance at the rear via the entry. The front room was never used it was just for show or special occasions, Nan lived in the parlour where there was a large range the house was all ways spotless, incidentally this was the house where my father was born, on this side of the street all the houses where virtually the same build. the back to backs where opposite just six buildings then there where six more terrace houses on our side the bottom of the street they had bay windows on the lower front ground floor so we had a mixture of buildings including seven shops and the basket carriage yard run by Mr Jennings in your ancestors time it was a coal yard if I come across any photographs of these buildings I will certainly put them on the site
thank you Astonian for your story may we use it on the main site
 
Pom, your grandma lived further up Park Lane than what is shown in the photo, on the left hand side, but where the pic ends is the start of Upper Thomas Street, and the pub you refer to is on the corner, was it called the Royal Albert?? I remember your cousin Brenda Martin who lived in those houses, would the family have shared the house with your gran?

John, did your nan and the Jelfs lived Park Lane end or Upper Webster Street end of Parliament Street? just trying to picture it, I would have thought the "posh end" was near Upper Webster Street, as the houses on the left hand side going towards Park Lane had bay windows, after Burlington Street, there were no bay windowed houses.
 
though they had bay windows they still had the same facilities as the none bay windows when we say the posh end we meant better than the back to backs all the houses in Parliament street excepting the back to backs had front and back rooms perhaps the bays looked better but that was the only difference any one with their own toilet was classed as posh to us i have drawn a little map for you to see were abouts my Nan lived
 
:angel: Sylvia yes You would know better than me how far up Park Lane 230 was , I just recognised the area from our visits (was that the bomb-peck on the right?). and thought that as the shops were 235/7 they must have been close.
Yes Nan lived with Brenda's family and died of Cancer at 230 Park Lane in 1958. Nan and my Dad had once lived in Upper Thomas St in the 1930's, that was the address given on Granddads death cert' in 1935. Another Aunty (Ida Crosbee) and her family lived in Tower Rd and her back gate was in Upper Thomas St.

Chris :angel:
 
Pom, where the cars are on the photo was a bomb site, but later it was a little petrol station, I think they must have started to sell cars just before the wholesale demolition of the area. Your gran's house was opposite Gospel Hall, and there was also bomb pecks adjacent to the Hall. There was a lot of bomb damage along Park Lane.

John, thanks for the sketch of Parliament Street, your nan must have lived next door to the Houghs, although I don't remember her.
 
yes the Houghs did live next door Billy, Sheila and Barbara my Nan was not one for mixing she was a bit of a loner she all ways went out early in to town our Bob used to go with her some times her first stop was Marsh and Baxters then down the market then back home to do the cooking she all ways had some thing in the oven her food was delicious
 
DEAR JON HOUGHTON ; MANY THANKS FOR DOWN LOADING THE DRAWING OF YOUR SKETCH OF PARLIMENT STREET ; I HAVEN,T REPLYED BEFORE NOW BECOS I WENT TO DUBLIN FOR A FUNERAL OF MY WIFE TERESA
BROTHER,ANY WAY I HOPE YOU ARE WELL,/ I WOULD BE VERY HAPPY TO LET YOU PUT THE GEORGE WILLIAM JELF
ON YOUR MAIN PAGE ,BUT BEFORE YOU DO I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU A FULL STORY ABOUT THEM , AND HIS 6 CHILDREN 5 ARE SONS THE FIRST TWO . GEORGE , WAS BORN FIRST THEN THERE WAS HENRY CHARLES,THEN THERE WAS ARTHER, ERNEST , WILLIAM, AND THERE SISTER IVY, THERE FATHER WAS A WEALTHY MAN , AND HE CAME FROM A HIGH SOCIETY BACK GROUND FAMILY HIS FATHER WAS THOMAS EDWARD JELF, AND HIS FATHER WAS EDWARD GEORGE JELF KNOWN FOR THE HANGING JUDGE, HIS FIRST CASE WAS WILLIAM YARNOLD, HE TRIED HIS CASE FOR THE MURDER OF HIS WIFE ,HIS WIFE HAD LEFT HIM SO HE KILLED HER , SO MR JELF SENTENCE TO BE HUNG , AND THAT WAS HIS FIRST TRIAL CASE IN WORCESTER DATED 4 OCTOBER 19O5 , THOMAS AND GEORGE WILLIAM JELF WAS LIVING IN HONEYBOURNE EVERSHAM,,THEY WHERE LAND OWNERS LAND STRETCHING ACROSS EVERSHAM WORC BRETEFORD TO THE OTHER SIDEOF EVERSHAM TO KNIGHTON, INKBERROW, GROWING ,AND FARMING LAND TODAY,THEY ALL LIVED CLOSE TO EACH OTHER, EDWARD, THOMAS, GEORGE WILIAM LIVED YARDS APART ALL WITH SIMARLY NAMES ON THERE HOUSE,S TREVERDENE, IVYDENE,TREVENA, NO 2 HIGH ST , WAS GEORGE WILLIAM HOUSE,THERE FATHER HAD A BIG HOUSE ,WHEN THE FATHER DIED , GEORGE WILLIAM JELF , MOVED INTO B,HAM THEY KEPT THERE THATCH COTTAGE,S ON , AND HE BROUGHT GEORGE, AND HENRY TO B,HAM, THEY BOUGHT THE LAND AT TYBURN ROAD, IN THE 192O,S AND 193O ,S THEY HAD FAMILY RELATIVES AND EMPLOYEE,S WORKING THE LAND FOR THEM AND PRODUCEING PROVISIONS FROM THE LAND, WILLIAM GEORGE JELF SET UP THE BUSSINESS OF RESTURANTS AND COFFEE SHOPS AROUND B,HAM AS HE PROGRESSED HE GAVE THE BUSSINESS,S TO THE SONS, ONE BY ONE THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS NOT REALLY BUSSINESS MINDED WAS WILLIAM,HE TRIED BUT IT DID,NT WORK OUT FOR HIM , SO HE JUST HELPED OUT AMONGEST THE BROTHER,S AT TYBURN RD THEY HAD A BIG WARE HOUSE WHERE THEY KEPT ALL THERE SUPPLY,S FOR ALL THERE 33 SHOPS , THEY HAD , ALSO THEY HAD 235 AND 237 PARK LANE AND THE REAR OF 235 AND 237 WHICH CONTAINED TWO LARGE WARE HOUSE,S AND 1 HOUSE AND 1 OFFICE THAT,S WHERE THEY KEPT ALL THE PROVISION,S FROM THE FARM TO SUPPLY ALL THERE HIGH SOCIETY WEDDING AND FUNCTION,S AND KEEP THERE CAFE,S AND FISH AND CHIPS SHOPS GOING AROUND B,HAM THEY HAD BIG TRANSPORT COFFEE HOUSES,S WITH BED AND BREAKFAST,S ERNEST SOLD THE HOUSE TO MR STOREY, THE WEALTHY NEIBOUR THE OTHER LAND OWNER BACK IN HONEYBOURNE WHERE THEY CAME FROM HE KEPT THE THE SHOPS AND THE WARE HOUSE,S AND HE WENT AND LIVED AT NUMBER 1 NEWCANNAL STREET DIGBETH IT WAS A VERY LARGE COFFEE SHOP WITH BED AND BREAKFAST FOR TRANSPORT DRIVER,S WHOM WAS DELIVERING TO TYPHOO TEA , AND THE HIDE AND SKIN , GEORGE JELF THE BROTHER DIED 6 JANUARY 1930 HE WAS A GREAT LOSS TO HIS DAD GEORGE WILLIAM JELF, CO,S HE WAS THE ELDEST, THEN THE FATHER DIED ON 15 SEPTEMBER 1935 , THE BUSSINESS ,S WAS LEFT TO THERE MOM , AND AS HENRY WAS THE NEXT OLDEST IN LINE HE BECAME THE OVERSEER OFHIS MOM,S BUSSINESS HE HAD GOT HIS BUSSINESS AT 91 ALMA STREET THE COFFEE SHOP AND A BOOKING SHOP HIS DAD,S SHOP AND ADDRESS WAS IVYDENE 9O1 TYBURN ROAD ACOFFEE SHOP AND A BOOKING SHOP , THEN THERE MOTHER DIED ON 16 SEPTEMBER 1946 THAT WAS THE DAY AFTER I WAS BORN ,, SO SHE DIVIDED ALL HER WEALTH AMONGEST THE SON,S WHAT THEY HAD ACCUMULATED FROM GEORGE WILLIAM JELF, AND HER PERSONAL WEALTH TOGETHER, TO WARDS HER CHILDREN , AND TO THE GRAND CHILDREN WHEN THEY REACH THE AGED OF 21 YEARS OF AGE, IVYDENE 9O1 WAS LEFT TO CHARLES HENRY , AND BARCLAY,S BANK HAS THE TRUSTEE,S FOR HER PROPERTY, CHARLES AND THE BANK GAVE IVY THE PROPERTY OF IVYDENE 9O1 TYBURN ROAD COFFEE SHOP IN ERNEST 1946,BECOS, SHE WAS LIVING THERE WITH HER MOM AND DAD FOR YEARS, AND SHE NEVER GOT MARRIED, AND BECOS, ALL THE BROTHER,S HAD BUSSINESS,S CHARLES KEPT AN EYE ON HER AND THE BUSSINESS BUT THEN CHARLES HENRY DIED ON 3O JANUARY 1959, THEN MY GRAND FATHER

ERNEST WENT TO SEE HER AND THEY HAD A BIG ROW , BECOS SHE BEFREINDED A CHAP NAMED ALBERT LLOYED , THIS CHAP WAS A COBBLER AND HE HAD A SMALL LITTLE SHOP ON THE LICHFIELD ROAD , ASTON WHO WAS A ALOCOLIC DRINKER AND HE WAS ONLY AFTER THE MONEY, BECOS HE HAD MOVED INTO THE PREMISE,S AND LIVING WITH HER, HE WAS A SCOUSER FROM LIVERPOOL, HE VOWED NEVER TO CROSS THE DOOR OF THE HOUSE OR THE SHOP, AND HE NEVER DID ALSO HE TOOK OVER THE REST OF THE SHOPS WHER THE REST DROPED OFF , IE, ARTHER,S GEORGE , SHOPS HE SOLD NO 1 NEWCANNAL STREET, AND WENT BACK TO PARK LANE WHERE UPON HE MET TWO LADY,S WHOM WAS HIS DOWN FALL THEY SPONGED OFF HIM AND SQANDERD ALL HIS MONEY AWAY HE STARTED TO DISPOSED ALL THE SHOPS , TO TRY AND KEEP UP LIFE STYLE SHOP ,AFTER SHOP THEY SLOWLEY WENT MY MOM WAS JOYCE IVY BEATRICE JELF, SHE MARRIED A WILLIAM STEVENS,AND THEY LIVED AT 5 BACK OF 92 LICHFIELD ROAD WHICH WAS DOWN THE ROAD FROM THE ASTON CROSS WE LIVED IN CROMWELL TERRACE, AND NOT ONCE THIS MAN EVER VISTED US TO SEE HIS ONLY DAUGHTER, THE LAST TIME WE EVER SEEN THIS MAN WAS IN 1953 ,WITH OUR GRAN BEFOR SHE DIED AT NO,1 NEWCANNAL STREET DIGBETH, THEN IN 1967 HE TRACKED US DOWN TO 47 VICTORIA ROAD WHERE HE AME AND BEGGED US TO TAKE IN AND WITHIN 6 MONTHS HE DIED IN THE AUGUST 1967 AND WE BURRIED HIM INYARDLEY CEMATREE, THE LADY,S WHOM HE TURNED HIS BACK ON WHICH WERE HIS SISTER IVY AND MY MOM WAS THE ONES WHO BURRIED HIM, SADLY THE ONLY LAST MEMBER OF THE JELF EMPIRE, AS DIED AND THAT WAS IVY SHE DIED IN THE GENERAL HOSPITAL23 NOVEMBER 1988 THE LAND THE SHOP THE DWELLING NAMELY IVYDENE 9O1 AS BEEN KNOCKED DOWN THE LAST OF GEORGE WILLIAM JELF EMPIRE WAS ON 24 AND THE25 OF JUNE 2OO4, THE BUILDING WAS OVER 1OO YEARS OLD WITH THE TWO SPECIAL BRICKS FROM HONEY BOURNE WAS TAKEN AWAY AND WRAPPED UP IN A SPECIEAL WAXED PAPER BY THE OFFICIAL,S TO SOME DEPARTMENT ,

BEST WISHES TO ALL ASTONIAN ,,
 
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