George Rose

[Shortie]

I have found a burial of a George Rose which I believe is one of my Roses. The burial records do not give a contact name, nor a proper address, however, in 1891 George was living in Sherlock Street, a widower, with a widowed daughter.

The burial records state this man lived at Hay ... Stores. I did not make a complete note of the full name (stupidly) probably because I was not sure. I have now found his wife's burial and she was buried from Sherlock Street, so I am pretty sure I have the right one.

Could someone look to see if there was a Hay (something) Stores in or around Sherlock Street please, the proprietor would probably be Emma Street. The death was 1898, so the 1899 Kelly's would probably be the right one. Many thanks.

Shortie

 

[mikejee]

Shortie
Not much luck i'm afraid. In 1899 there is no-one named Street listed in or around sherlock St. There are no entries "Hay.... Stores at all listed . There are no businesses beginning in Hay in Sherlock St. There are a number beginning Hay which i suppose could be considered "around" Sherlock St, but how far around should be considered? If you give me a list of streets then i could check through to see if there is any "Hay" in them. then only thing is, looking at 1892, there is an Edward Hayes, boot & shoe maker at 43 sherlock St (not in 1899). Wouldn't have thought a boot & show repairer would be called something stores . Looked on ancestry and george Rose is a fair bit down the road from no 43
Mike

 

[Shortie]

Thank you Mike. The burial records are a bit scant to say the least - probably because he is buried in a public grave. I agree that a boot makers would not be called 'stores'. I have not got access to Ancestry at present, but will renew as soon as jobs at home are finished (decorating!), and might be able to find his daughter and perhaps solve the mystery. I knew it would be a long shot, but it was worth a try. Thank you very much for looking for me.

Shortie

 

[Phil]

Shorty

I cant help you with an address either, but are you sure it might not be Hay & Straw dealer?

Phil

 

[Shortie]

Well Phil, it was only the burial records that I saw (and they are not always right) , but the last word was definitely stores. Have you something that might be of interest? He was living with daughter Emma Street in 1891 and Emma was a widow (who might have remarried I suppose). I am trying not to pay £10 for a certificate!

 

[Phil]

No sorry Shorty nothing to add other than what I have already said I just thought it might help with your search.

Phil

 

[Shortie]

Thanks for the thought Phil. I need to find his daughter next and go back from there. It keeps the grey cells moving, so I should be pleased!

 

[lindyloo]

Hi Shortie,
Hope you don't mind but I had a quick look for Emma, I think she may have died in 1893, age 43, buried Key Hill, reg number 38331.
Her Daughter Clara, possibly married Thomas James Stevens, living in Northfield in 1901.. I can give you more details on that if you want them.

 

[Shortie]

Hi Lindyloo, of course I don't mind - however, I had already found Emma's death and ascertained she was at Key Hill. I am amazed, I think I have about 30 relatives there now. Thank you for the other information, I am about to re-subscribe to Ancestry so I shall look them up.

Thanks again

shortie

 

[lindyloo]

Hi Shortie,
:encouragement: good to know I had found the same one as you..For reasons that you know of, I haven't been spending much time on the pc of late, so its good to be able to dust off the 'research mode cobwebs' occasionally , just to keep my grey matter going !!
Do you know where all/any of the 30ish rellies are buried in Key Hill ?
Lynne

 

[Shortie]

Yes, Lynne, a good eeal of them anyway. Quite a few in public graves but some in private graves, and one in a private grave that was sold on to another family! I think so far, including Emma Street, I am up to 27. I cannot find a marriage for Emma, so have no idea if her husband is there too. I was trying to give this up for a while, but something started me off again, just as my Ancestry subscription expired. I shall renew in a week or so, once I have got my filing done! I still have some to verify which plot they are in, but that will mean a trip to Birmingham, got to find time for that.

 

[lindyloo]

Shortie, I think that's wonderful to have them all together (does that sound odd ?) I think that Emma married a John Henry Street in the Dec 1/4 of 1870, St Giles, 1b 743. They were lodging in Nova Scotia Street (George and Dragon Yard ?), St Peter's Ward, Birmingham (the writing isnt very good) in 1871, with 7 month old daughter Ada. I also think that John Henry (born Middlesex) died in the March 1/4 of 1891, (prior to the census being taken) and that he is also in Key Hill, reg number 36032.
I don't think I would be able to give up doing this....My addiction is far to strong to overcome !!

 

[Shortie]

Thanks Lynne - my Ancestry subscription ended about a week or so ago, just as I found all of this lot. I am so surprised to find the family started in Polesworth, moved to Atherstone and then to Birmingham and to find so many in Key Hill is amazing. Emma's parents were living in Nova Scotia Street in 1891 - moving from Hockley, so I expect they moved to support her in her loss. Although I should not 'officially' be looking at all these side lines (it's Emma's grandparents who are my 3 x gt grandparents), it does give an explanation as to why some families moved around a lot. My 3 x gt grandparents were C of E until around 1830, and then it appears they became non-conformists, the last two children were not baptised and the eldest daughter married in a non-conformist church, so it all falls into place as to why they were at Key Hill. I shall renew my Ancestry subscription shortly, but need to get a job or two done before I sit myself down and produce more paper for my husbnd to complain about! Thank you so much for your help.