Hi David, i have only just found this post, my Grandad was called Norman Gilbert and he played for many different football teams, he has some medals. Was the Bernard and Norman you are looking for brothers? If they were then I’m afraid it’s not my grandad but if by coincidence they had the same surname it could possibly be him, I’m unsure if my grandad worked for Paynes, he was always a builder that I knew of, I just had to comment just in case.
thank you
Julie