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Forgotton Voices of the Great War

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This is a subject very close to my heart. With the possibility I am accused of being political it was never the guys and gals out there we don't support because we do with all our hearts. It's the politicians I for one have no time for.
Thinking about our wonderful troops all the time and pray for an end to this carnage, but I don't know what the answer is.
Just reading "Forgotton Voices of the Great War" a book in the words of the men and women who were there on both sides of the conflict. Should be required reading for all those in power.
 
Forgotten voices

Hi Grace,

I have that book too, in fact I have many books on 'The War to end all wars'
I range from Lynn Macdonald's Somme to Billy Bishop and 'The courage of the early morning'..
The first World War is one of my greatest hobbies and it also the source of some of my greatest sadness..When will we ever learn?
I was at the French and Belgian warfields last year...so many times I had a lump in my throat so hard I couldn't speak..
Damn those Politicians who send us to war and damn them even more who claim to do it in a Gods name...
 
At the going down of the sun...

Off topic I'm afraid, slapped legs for me. We share an interest Kandor. Have you read "Poems of the Great War 1914-1918" and of course Sebastian Faulks "Birdsong"
I agree, we never learn do we?
 
Two of my Uncles were in the trenches in WW1. They were released in 1920 and went home to Birmingham to go back to work in a coal mine. The eldest decided he would take his chance in America, and the younger one followed him two years later, but was so home sick. He died on the boat coming home, age 26. I cried for him when I went to Kew and found the ships manifest, a line was drawn through his details and the passenger numbers were reduced by one.

Imagine my grandparents going to L:iverpool to meet him, and he didn't get off the ship.

God Bless you Uncle George. You were and are much mourned.
 
Billy Bishop

Kandor....regarding the Flying Ace Billy Bishop...... Many years ago I was invited to a British evening at a Legion in Vancouver. This was when there were only beer parlours in Vancouver and bars at the hotels...no pubs as we British know them then. The beer parlours only sold booze and were not fancy. When I stepped inside the Billy Bishop Legion in Vancouver I was totally amazed. It was just like a friendly British local with military overtones. a great bar, flags, paintings and a battered old piano.
I have never returned but had heard this Legion is full of some of the
most incredible military memorabilia right up to the current times. I found their website and there is a virtual tour of this rather small place. I think
you will agree that the collection is amazing. www.royalcanadianlegion.com/billytour/Tour19.html
 
Billy Bishop

Thank you Jenny, ..I'll read the link later today..I have to say Billy was in my eyes the greatest 'flying Ace' of all time..
The book title is so apt too, what a man...what a hero.
The most amazing thing in my eyes was that these wonderful young men came from all corners of the Globe to help out Britain in our hour of need..trouble is, we have a shameful way of thanking and remembering them..Well I never will forget the debt we owe them.
 
A few years ago we visited the Battlefields and Cemeteries of the Somme.
At each cemetery there were hundreds of white headstones all bearing the names of young men most of them 18 years of age,it was heart breaking but worst of all was the Thiepval memorial to 74,000 young men whose bodies were never found.
At the time I prayed that the lives of our young men would not be lost in war ever again but that is just what is happening today.
 
WW 1 link highly reccomended...

:D As I have mentioned on other threads, this is a great link for people interestedor reseaching 'The War To End All wars' WW1.
Just like this forum and site, the people and members who contribute here have a real interest in history and the true facts on the subject, they are more than willing and able to pass on their knowledge to anyone with a genuine need, or interest .
I it is well worth a visit to anyone interested, or needs to find information about any aspect of the great war, or members of their family who may have taken part in the war .
I have spent many hours reading some very interesting and sad posts about the trials and tribulations of the people young, old ,men and women who took part in this major disaster, cause that is what it was.
Like this site it is a none profit and is run by 'Chris Baker' and friends as a hobby, with donations from members only if they wish.
https://1914-1918.org/forum ...
 
Just imagine..

Just imagine you are a young teenage boy...perhaps you're one of those lads who lied about their age so you could join in on the 'Big adventure'
You've been living in filth and you're infested with lice..perhaps you've been continually shelled during all your time at the forward trenches...you've watched friends die in ways that to us are unimaginable..the probability is, you never known a woman...and in the midst of all this horror and death...you break..but as Rod said...there was no recognised shell shock back then..it was cowardice..and for that...some of our bravest young men ever were tied to a post and shot..
You think we should be ashamed of treating them that way dont you?
You want to know what the real shame is?
Its that 70 odd years later our mealy mouthed Politicians who feather their pensions while ours crumble,those same people who still send our Soldiers out to die for reasons only known to themselves yet cut back our Military numbers at the same time, those same Politicians who wouldn't know the truth if it hit them in the face..those 'Yes men and women' who have sold our heritage for their 30 bags of silver..decided even with the knowledge of what all those boys went through..not to grant those so called 'cowards'
a pardon..
Makes you proud to be British doesn't it?
 
Hail Mary full of Grace..

Good Morning, Good morning,The General said,
As he met them last week on their way to the line.
But the soldiers he smiled at, are most of them dead.
And they're cursing his staff, as incompetant swine.
'He's a cheery old card', grunted Harry to Jack
As they marched up to Arras with rifle and pack.
But he did for them both with his plan of attack..

I apologise if I've made any mistakes in that as I wrote it down from memory..
One of my other great hobbies is War Poetry..
From Brookes to Sassoon..
They were there...they knew it..
I have about 25 books on WW1...each one so painful to read..
Trouble is, as someone once far wiser than me wrote..
If we forget our history, we're condemned to repeat it..
 
A Poem By Ken Smith

ONE LAST TIME


I'm 94 not much time have I left
But there's one thing I must do before that appointment with death.
To return to the battlefields of Y'pes and the Somme
And memories of comrades who have long since gone.
The ultimate sacrifice they had made, now the world
Only knows them as a name on a grave.
I've travelled so far from the place I call home
To spend a few moments looking down at these stones
Stones of marble so white and so cold
The soldiers beneath them never got to grow old.
For this is a place where the lost where found
And laid to rest beneath the ground.
Husbands, fathers and brothers too or are they
Simply a name someone knew.
The battlefields here are scattered all around
Now deathly quiet you can't hear a sound.
In 1914 many men were so keen to don the kharki
And serve god, king, and queen.
The pals battalion's they had been formed
Lie now in death, in rows all uniformed.
The whistle would sound then it was “Over the Top “
And one by one you would see men drop.
Barely a man made it back again alive.
Those who did their fear they could not hide
Shell shock or coward it mattered not to me
For the awful sight's we had to see.
The blood turned to mud from the constant rain.
As men lay dying in terrible pain.
“Mother “they cried as they fought not to die
With arms out stretched pointing up to the sky.
“ War” is evil so many men lost, it's the man in the
Street who pays the cost.
Politicians bang the drum. Then hide in the shadows
Till their war as been done.
When the guns they finally fell still.
And I can still feel that chill that runs up my spine
I had lived through it all, and I was still alive.
When the soldiers went home they were never the same
Some would be diagnosed as being insane.
Broken and bitter men turned to drink, to get rid
Of the nightmares was all they could think.
The last post sounds at the menin gate to remind
The world of these poor men's fate.
Every year in November people gather to remember
The souls that were lost and how families paid the cost.
Thousands of widows mourn, on that bleak winter's dawn.
“We will remember them” the pledge is made
Whilst poppies are placed on men's graves.
The British legion makes sure of that as old comrades
Stand silent and remove their caps.
As they stand quiet, still, with backs ramrod straight.
Their minds drift back to their friends and their fate.
And the tears roll down the cheeks of the few.
For the remains of their comrades who were never found too
Then they pray to god that never again
Must generations of our young men be slain?
For a world full of peace, is that to much to ask,
Or isn't man committed to fulfil this task.
And they raise their hands and salute the brave
For the world to save, their young lives they gave
And I turn and walk slowly away, I know in my heart
We will meet again. Some day.
 
Thought of the day

:( "Shot At Dawn"
"There are some men who dislike military service to such an extent that it sends them off their heads. It is a tall order for the State to take on the liability to support, possibly for life, a man who becomes a lunatic because he is a coward and fears to undertake the liability which falls upon him as an Englishman" - Ministry of Pensions, March 1918. :cry:

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