gerry taylor
knowlegable brummie
Hi Gerry here. Has anyone ever heard of a Film called "A Tram Ride To The Bullring"? One of our lads on the brummie speedway site says he remembers watching a film called that way back.
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Forgotten Film???
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Lloyd
master brummie
"A Tram To The Bullring"
"A Tram To The Bullring" was a BBC documentary film, first shown in 1974. It featured mostly amateur cine film shot by enthusiasts like Stanley Eades of Birmingham's trams in their latter days. There is a lot more film available these days and a few transport-interest video publishers have released a number of videos and DVDs using this material. Try the Ian Allen bookshop in Stephenson Street if you want to buy one, or see adverts in enthusiast magazines.
"A Tram To The Bullring" was a BBC documentary film, first shown in 1974. It featured mostly amateur cine film shot by enthusiasts like Stanley Eades of Birmingham's trams in their latter days. There is a lot more film available these days and a few transport-interest video publishers have released a number of videos and DVDs using this material. Try the Ian Allen bookshop in Stephenson Street if you want to buy one, or see adverts in enthusiast magazines.
Alf
Gone but not forgotten. R.I.P.
sylviasayers
master brummie
Lloyd that was a great bit of film, before my time but so evocative of the many happy days spent at the Lickeys. What about the clip of the women in their fox furs - certainly dressed up for their day out.
ASTONITE
master brummie
For All Tram Enthusiasts, Their Is A Video Called "Birmingham Trams And Trolley-buses",it Features Lots Of Vintage Footage And Covers All The Routes That Ran In Brum, Right Up To Footage Of The Last Trams And Their Eventual Breakup. It Lasts For 2 Hours And Is Worth Viewing For The Scenery Alone,lots Of Nostalgia For Those Old Enough To Remember The Trams.
I Dont Know If Its Available On Dvd, But You Should Still Be Able To Get Hold Of It From A Specialist Shop
I Dont Know If Its Available On Dvd, But You Should Still Be Able To Get Hold Of It From A Specialist Shop
Phil
Gone, but not forgotten.
Colin
I knew the route, and I think it ran up Mary St and Park Rd and then onto Alcester Rd, what I couldn't understand was why it would be turning left in to what looks like Pershore Rd, right I would accept but not left.
Perhaps Lloyd might know?
Phil
I knew the route, and I think it ran up Mary St and Park Rd and then onto Alcester Rd, what I couldn't understand was why it would be turning left in to what looks like Pershore Rd, right I would accept but not left.
Perhaps Lloyd might know?
Phil
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Lloyd
master brummie
I think it's turning from Alexandra Rd into Balsall Heath Rd. Somewhere in that arrea, anyway.
Lloyd
master brummie
Hmm, not really sure. I'm only using an old map with bus & tram routes superimposed on it, no indication of what went where. I'll have to investigate further and get back on that one,
Peter Walker
gone but not forgotten
Just seen that wonderful bit of old tramway film - brilliant. I think Lloyd is absolutely right about the location of the first sequence - turning out of Alexandra Road into Balsall Heath Road.
I may post some more on the subject in the morning, with pics and map.
Peter
I may post some more on the subject in the morning, with pics and map.
Peter
Phil
Gone, but not forgotten.
Lads
Let me make this statement. "I know absolutely nothing about trams and tram routes". On looking at an early map to remind myself of the area. I am reminded that Alexander Rd continued along the same line as St Lukes Rd across Belgrave Rd, (just by where Percy Shurmer's house was). Before continuing on to Balsall Heath Rd.
So it is quite possible that the clips shows a no 39 turning out of Alexander Rd into Balsall Heath Rd.
This would make the route I think. Navigation St, Hurst St, Sherlock St, St Lukes Rd, Alexander Rd, Balsall Heath Rd, Mary St, Alcester Rd, then continuing on to the terminus. Would this be correct.
May I add my aplogy for the doubt, are for questioning your knowledge of these matters. I of course was thinking of that part of Alexander Rd that run down to Speedwell Rd and Calthorpe Park, and could see no reason for a tram to take that route.
Phil
Let me make this statement. "I know absolutely nothing about trams and tram routes". On looking at an early map to remind myself of the area. I am reminded that Alexander Rd continued along the same line as St Lukes Rd across Belgrave Rd, (just by where Percy Shurmer's house was). Before continuing on to Balsall Heath Rd.
So it is quite possible that the clips shows a no 39 turning out of Alexander Rd into Balsall Heath Rd.
This would make the route I think. Navigation St, Hurst St, Sherlock St, St Lukes Rd, Alexander Rd, Balsall Heath Rd, Mary St, Alcester Rd, then continuing on to the terminus. Would this be correct.
May I add my aplogy for the doubt, are for questioning your knowledge of these matters. I of course was thinking of that part of Alexander Rd that run down to Speedwell Rd and Calthorpe Park, and could see no reason for a tram to take that route.
Phil
Phil
Gone, but not forgotten.
Colin
Your route plan explains a lot to me, the reason I was getting confused was because of the different routes inbound and outbound. I have a photo of a No 39 tram crossing Edward Rd on Mary St, knowing the location well I assumed the tram was on its outward jouney from town. Your route plan shows it was on its inward trip to town.
I had assumed that it travelled the same route both ways.
Thanks.
Your route plan explains a lot to me, the reason I was getting confused was because of the different routes inbound and outbound. I have a photo of a No 39 tram crossing Edward Rd on Mary St, knowing the location well I assumed the tram was on its outward jouney from town. Your route plan shows it was on its inward trip to town.
I had assumed that it travelled the same route both ways.
Thanks.
Lloyd
master brummie
The peculiarities of tram operation in that area of narrow streets where separate roads were used as even Birmingham's narrow trams could not pass each other, and so operated a sort of 'one way' system became known as 'Cannon Hilling' due to the proximity of the park. I believe enthusiasts of the day called the routes the 'Chinese Railway'!
Some of the roads and houses which appear in tram photos of that area are still there, but large swathes of the Balsall Heath district were swept away in 1960s redevelopment and you cannot tell where the roads were.
Some of the roads and houses which appear in tram photos of that area are still there, but large swathes of the Balsall Heath district were swept away in 1960s redevelopment and you cannot tell where the roads were.
john knight
signman
I have a copy of the video that lyn was talking about, it's free to any one that wants it, but I'm not sure about
doing it in a fair way, any suggestions-that's if anyone is
interested.
John.
doing it in a fair way, any suggestions-that's if anyone is
interested.
John.
S
Stitcher
Guest
This picture is the first electric tram on Soho Rd Handsworth. 1911.
S
Stitcher
Guest
Forgive me if I posted that in the wrong place.
Lloyd
master brummie
What a lovely photo!
This must be on the morning of Saturday 1st July, 1911, when following the expiry of leases held by the City of Birmingham Tramway Company Ltd., Corporation electric trams replaced the company's cable-hauled trams. Close inspection shows the groove between the running lines where the cable cars 'gripper' would run, holding the cable for traction.
The location is of course Soho Road, Handsworth with the Handsworth Urban District Council office building in the background, just past Stafford Road.