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Fish Market Wholesale 1869

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Rupert

master brummie
Hi,
Anyone else enjoy a nice plate of whelks or jellied eels or crabs claws?

Wimbushes doughnuts mmm.

Birmingham had a great fish market in the old days. Lived abroad for 40 years now and these things are impossible to come by.

Tim Hortons think they can make donuts. You have to make allowances.

regards,
 
This thread has been created from posts scattered across a number of markets threads. For an explanation of each market please see this link.

https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/for...-to-birmingham-wholesale-retail-markets.3073/



There was a photo of the indoor market in the 60's, I think it was on the Vitual Brum site.It was of my hubby's Uncle David Herbert who had a fish and poultry stall. Sadly we can't find the picture anywhere
on that site. Can anyone point us in the right direction to find it please?

Thank you
 
The photo on this post has been lost

Hi Rowan
This is the only picture I can find of the fish market.
 
Many thanks Postied............will show hubby and see if he recalls anyone.

Thank you for your time:)
 
my grandad worked in the fish market in 1940s but my earliest memory was in 1960 i think he was just visiting there at this time he used to always bring my mother a large piece of fish i think it was flounder not sure it was kind of round with spots on its back and flatish i always thought i could never eat that and never did but i love fish now . My grandad was david mac he would be very old now so dont think there would be anybody from his time working at fishmarket he would have retired during world war two or not long after. I wander if there is any information about those days anywhere about workers at fishmarket would love to see his name somewhere.
 
Rosie, I think you will find that, that flat fish with spots was a (plaice) ANOTHER FISH LOVER...Cat
 
Living in Wolverhampton we would travel to Birmingham on the train and my favorite was to visit the fish market for crab claws. Mom would always say no because I would always eat them on the train back home, I would always promise I wouldn't but once the train was moving off would come my hair clip and I would tuck in. This would have been around 1945-1950 loved the rag market as well. Mom was born at Claybrook St so we would visit quite often
 
Can anyone help with this another partly demolished building near to St Martins.

Demolition_2.jpg Demolition_1.jpg
 
The small building at the rear on pic 2 says John Brandon and co and the road on the right just before it sign says Lease Lane hope this helps
 
Visual confirmation

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Thats Brilliant I now know the building and the date thanks everyone.
 
Rupert said:
The little chapel is the fish market which I suspect is often confused with the market hall; where they also sold fish. Perhaps the fish market was wholesale. Maybe the two similar photo's were taken as a series at the same time from slightly different perspectives. The church clock is the same time.
The fish market does look like a little doric building though...if that is the right word. Must have walked past it many times and never noticed. I wonder what style the Market Hall was supposed to be and I still think that the other end in Wordester Street was intended to be the front. Hardly ever used that end though.
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A view looking down Bell Street in 1955. The road was sandwiched between the Fish Market and Market Hall. The Fish Market looks bigger than I thought. Viv.

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The wholesale fish market was built in 1869 on the the corner of Bell Street and High Street/Bull Ring next door to the Birmingham Market Hall (retail). Before this a fish market was held in an open air market in Dale End.

This is the Fish Market in 1968 - as photographed by Phyllis Nicklin and before the building was demolished to make way for the Bull Ring 1970s markets. The second image is an interior view of the market taken in 1958. Viv.

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The opening of the fish market is normally given as 1869, it moving from a site in the street, But it looks like the market was held on that site for a short time before the building was built. this is a cutting from the birmingham Post 25.10.1867
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We moved to Kent in1984,but have come up every year to put flowers on parents graves at Witton & Sutton Crematorium.We always stayed at my wife's cousins in Old Walsall Rd,and called in at the Fish & Meat MKTS to get Black Pudding,Pigs Tails and lovely Pork Pies ( Haven't got a clue how to make them down here).Sadly all relatives have passed away so won't visit Brum anymore.
 
My brother worked for ROB PRYKE in the market on the Fish side for him between 1951-56 then went in the Army .National Service
 
My Grandfather David Yates had four stalls in the fish market pre forties, known as Yates Brothers they were fish mongers and poulterers, supplying many local hotels etc.
I Remember that it was bombed, always suggested there were no planes over Birmingham that night.?
 
mikejee said:
The opening of the fish market is normally given as 1869, it moving from a site in the street, But it looks like the market was held on that site for a short time before the building was built. this is a cutting from the birmingham Post 25.10.1867
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Reading the cutting, posted by Mike, I noticed the reference to Torbay. It was interesting to note the reference to some of the ship owners being from Birmingham. Just over a year before the date of the cutting a severe storm hit Torbay and parts of the English Channel. The following link details the disaster which claimed very many lives and loss of fishing smacks.
I have seen some outbuilding in the town which used some of the salvaged ships timbers, some I had here.
www.southdevonplayers.com

The Great Gale of Brixham, 1866

On the night of January 10 – 11th 1866, a southeast gale blew up, and the storm is widely remembered in Brixham to this day. Much of the towns fishing fleet, as well as other ships sheltering in...
www.southdevonplayers.com

I wonder how the Birmingham owners fared? Were they insured and were they able to get new or replacement vessels?
The industry did soon pick up I believe.

Whilst fishing is still very much a 'You sails by permission' occupation it does have modern day methods of help i.e. shipping and weather forecasting plus motorised craft which are able to manouvre more easily from trouble than the sailed craft of yesteryear.
Pre WW2 it was said that over 400 fishing smacks were registered in Brixham. It is still a very busy port as is Plymouth and Newlyn.
1569066143409.png One of six or so Brixham smack survivors'
 
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Radiorails said:
Reading the cutting, posted by Mike, I noticed the reference to Torbay. It was interesting to note the reference to some of the ship owners being from Birmingham. Just over a year before the date of the cutting a severe storm hit Torbay and parts of the English Channel. The following link details the disaster which claimed very many lives and loss of fishing smacks.
I have seen some outbuilding in the town which used some of the salvaged ships timbers, some I had here.
www.southdevonplayers.com

The Great Gale of Brixham, 1866

On the night of January 10 – 11th 1866, a southeast gale blew up, and the storm is widely remembered in Brixham to this day. Much of the towns fishing fleet, as well as other ships sheltering in...
www.southdevonplayers.com

I wonder how the Birmingham owners fared? Were they insured and were they able to get new or replacement vessels?
The industry did soon pick up I believe.

Whilst fishing is still very much a 'You sails by permission' occupation it does have modern day methods of help i.e. shipping and weather forecasting plus motorised craft which are able to manouvre more easily from trouble than the sailed craft of yesteryear.
Pre WW2 it was said that over 400 fishing smacks were registered in Brixham. It is still a very busy port as is Plymouth and Newlyn.
View attachment 137741 One six or so Brixham smack survivors'
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That is one beautiful sailing ship!
 
fincher said:
My Grandfather David Yates had four stalls in the fish market pre forties, known as Yates Brothers they were fish mongers and poulterers, supplying many local hotels etc.
I Remember that it was bombed, always suggested there were no planes over Birmingham that night.?
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welcome to the forum fincher...thanks for the post...enjoy

lyn
 
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