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- Thread starter Bevley
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hi bevley and welcome...are you looking for info on bellis and morcom or your family ancestry in general..if its your family ancestry then you could join either ancestry or find my past and we do have quite a bit of info on the forum about bellis and morcom..
lyn
lyn
Hi Lyn,
Thanks for replying so quickly. At this stage I am looking for info on Bellis and Morcom only during the period my grandfather was there - probably 1906 to 1912. I don't know how long his apprenticeship would be.
Bevley
Hi Lyn, I did as you suggested but unfortunately no threads were found. I have tried to find contact details for Bellis & Morcom but the only email address I found wanted to know what product I wanted to buy which isn't the case. I shall just have to keep plodding along. Thanks for your help. Bevley
hi bevley
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Bellis and Morcom
Interesting article about some war time employee records uncovered at their old factory https://icbirmingham.icnetwork.co.uk/...name_page.html
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Belliss & Morcom
Interesting article about some war time employee records uncovered at their old factory https://icbirmingham.icnetwork.co.uk/...name_page.html
birminghamhistory.co.uk
Tube Works in Ladywood
My great grandfather was a tube drawer and later a driller and engineering labourer who live in locations all around Shakespeare Road, Monument Road and Beach Street in the 1890s to 1940s. I notice that in the middle of all those locations were two large factories: the Credenda Tube Works (by...
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Richard Dye
master brummie
Hello Beverly, have you tried Googling or Wikipedia? I just did and there was quite a bit of information. Not sure it’s what you need, worth a look.
Hi Richard, Thanks for your reply. Yes, I have done both and printed out the info from Wikipedia and it seems the company has been taken over or merged with other companies over the years. I am trying to obtain specific info on my grandfather's apprenticeship and was hoping to contact whoever has the staff records from the period 1906 to 1912 approximately. I shall search the three sites that True Brummie has given me. It may turn out to be 'pie in the sky' but I am not giving up just yet. Thanks once again. Bevley
Stokkie
master brummie
Hi Bevley,
A standard apprenticeship generally lasted 7 years, on the way you became a Journeyman before qualifying.
https://assets.publishing.service.g...ent_data/file/402423/Apprenticeships_1914.pdf
There's an interesting thread on Beliss and Morcom here:https://www.practicalmachinist.com/forum/threads/belliss-morcom.154870/ which reveals that old employee records were found when the factory was demolished. This is unusual to find such old material.
Derek
A standard apprenticeship generally lasted 7 years, on the way you became a Journeyman before qualifying.
https://assets.publishing.service.g...ent_data/file/402423/Apprenticeships_1914.pdf
There's an interesting thread on Beliss and Morcom here:https://www.practicalmachinist.com/forum/threads/belliss-morcom.154870/ which reveals that old employee records were found when the factory was demolished. This is unusual to find such old material.
Derek
Thanks Derek. The articles you sent are very interesting - my brain is going around in circles. I would like to contact the organisation who holds the employee records from that era to find out whether they have any information on my Grandfather. There is information available that the records have been found but not who actually has them. My Grandfather emigrated to Australia 1912 at the age of 20 years after he finished his Patternmaker/Draftsman apprenticeship and if he served 7 years then he must have started at a very early age. Thanks again Derek. Bevley
pjmburns
master brummie
Don't forget that even as late as the 1940s children left school and started apprenticeships at the age of 14. So starting at 12 or 13 (or earlier) in 1900s would have been usual.
pjmburns
master brummie
Belliss & Morcom Ltd, engineers, boiler makers and turbine manufacturers | The National Archives
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Stokkie
master brummie
https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/info/50134/archives_and_collections/1552/archives_and_collections/4
@Bevley, if you are local to Birmingham or could visit for some time then you could visit the Birmingham Archives, for this you need an Archives Card. https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/info/50134/archives_and_collections/1552/archives_and_collections/4
I appreciate that you may may live in Australia though.
Derek
@Bevley, if you are local to Birmingham or could visit for some time then you could visit the Birmingham Archives, for this you need an Archives Card. https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/info/50134/archives_and_collections/1552/archives_and_collections/4
I appreciate that you may may live in Australia though.
Derek
Stokkie
master brummie
Thanks Stokkie. I shall search the Bermingham Archives. Yes, I live in Queensland. Bevley
Thanks Janice. Yes, I thought that may be the case. I guess you cannot really expect them to undertake research for someone living overseas, Queensland in my case. Bevley