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Erdington

gingerjon said:
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Just found this thread. I do not see the photo of Erdington High St that others are referrring to. Or indeed any photos. Am I missing something obvious? Or maybe the photo is no longer accessible?

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Hi Terry,
Lots of pictures were hacked apparently some time ago. I know that people are trying to replace them. Are you looking for anything specific?
 
Hi Lady P,

Thanks, appreciate the fast reply.

No, I wasn’t looking for anything specific. Just browsing in one of my occasional bouts of nostalgia!

I’ve since discovered many photos, so presumably the patchiness is down to that earlier hacking you mention.

Shortly after posting I also remembered that I’d contributed many photos myself, in the 'image history' section or something like that. But I'm darned if I can find that now. To be honest, I find navigation here something of a challenge!

And somewhere here in a location I’ve also not yet found there’s a video I uploaded a few years ago. I expect that all of the photos in it are already here. But I’ll paste the link to Erdington: Then & Now (45 mins) again below. Anyone should feel free to take any snapshots. Viewing the 12-year old video just now I reckon it's about twice as long as necessary, but there's always the fast-forward button for the boring bits, especially the many maps. Remember to switch to full screen and turn up the volume!

Terry, East Grinstead, UK
 
No sure if this has been mentioned but there's going to be a big development on land which was originally earmarked for a Sainsbury's supermarket. This is opposite the Cross keys and includes the old Honeycomb building. Now lots of houses and flats are to be built. Shops along the main road are mostly empty and very run down. Only the painter's shadow remains on the empty shop opposite. Will that be going too?
 
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I've linked to the pic which is in a Furniture Removals thread and the address 76, Summer Road, Birmingham, can be seen on the vans. Would this have been a separate office and it would also be interesting to know where these vans were parked for the photo?
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Photo taken in front of Sutton Coldfield Town Hall. I drove past theredsc_0025.jpg today and noticed some remembered features!
 
We went for a mooch round on Bank Holiday Monday and walked into Erdington to look at the developments along the Birmingham Road. This picture is, I think, where the Lyndhurst Pub used to stand. They've made a good job of the houses - they look very smart. The bungalows on the opposite side of the road are originals.
 

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We took a few pictures of 'Before they're gone' as the new development is in progress. Boards around the old Honeywell building are advertising apartments and no doubt the row of shops opposite the Abbey is about to go. Wonder how long the doctor's house will last? The first photo is the back of the doctor's house from the car park in Orphanage Road. Next up is an old building next to Honeywell in Edwards Road with a lifting beam. Then opposite the Abbey and a couple of shots of the workshops and old buildings at the back of aforementioned shops.
 

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Lady Penelope said:
oM, It would be interesting to see what was there in past times.
There used to be a sign for 'Welcome to the Royal Town' by the tram terminus but although this has been re-instated I think it's a bit like Aston Cross and has moved.
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The sign apparently did not welcome us, they just let us know we were crossing the border into their Royal Town ....:D
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As post 871 has a date of 1938 it might well portray the last day (or days) that the trams ran along there. After 25th. September, 1938 they were diverted to Sutton New Road.
 
Radiorails said:
Paynes had many branches in Birmingham, the following thread gives a lot of detail.
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/paynes-shoe-repairs.31424/
I haven't seen the photo here before - but who knows, there is a lot to see here, but it has a lot of interest. Ells's truck is, I believe, a Fordson with a West Bromwich registration.
Also notable is the Midland Red parcels collection sign.
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Thank you for the Paynes link, it is very interesting. There is mention of Mere Green shop but was there one in the centre of Sutton?
 
I followed the link in Viv's earlier post and I'm so glad I did. It's a really good site and so informative. Loved the memories of Gravelly Hill and the electricity being installed. It also solved the mystery of why the Erdington Arms was known by the locals as 'The Muckman's'.
 
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Now this is baffling. It's a print supposedly representing the stagecoach dashing through Erdington Green. Can't say I can see the resemblance. But the map is interesting in that it demonstrates how undeveloped the area was in the early 1800s. Viv.

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Viv, I've followed your link from the Moor End Lane thread and I'm glad you put the whole print on the forum. I have a copy of this and came to the conclusion that the artist has used a little imagination in his drawing. However, I think the building on the left is the Swan as the stagecoaches started from there and there were similar trees in some photos I've seen. What the 'dog kennel' building in front is though I have no idea. What really puzzles me are the black and white things next to the supposed pub - are they lights? If so what are they hanging from? Very strange.
 
There wasn't a tollhouse by the pub was there? The dog kennel could be that, especially if it was not meant to be accurate. By the black & white things I take it you mean 13 objects clustered to the right of the hotel. I think they must be lights. If you expand that part you can see some of the supports, and it was a painting, so no need to include all at that resolution. Theyseem to be surrounding a raised syand, so presumably were at the raised alighting point for when the coach arrived in darkness.

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Looking at the layout of the buildings in the view, I think the stage coaches could be travelling from west to east towards the London and Chester Road. The railings on the left could be around the Workhouse and maybe the hut houses a gate keeper.
 
My first picture is from The Story of Erdington Parish Church by May G Power. Probably the vicar's wife at some point as there was a Canon Power if I remember correctly. This is a photocopy of the original book now discarded by Sutton Reference Library.
The next picture shows the location of the shop. I remember the columns but I'm not sure if it was still a wine shop when I knew it.
The building that interests me too is the half-timbered one on the opposite side of the road. This is apparently the Old White Lion which dates back to at least the mid 18th Century according to Douglas V Jones in his Story of Erdington.
 

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mikejee said:
There wasn't a tollhouse by the pub was there? The dog kennel could be that, especially if it was not meant to be accurate. By the black & white things I take it you mean 13 objects clustered to the right of the hotel. I think they must be lights. If you expand that part you can see some of the supports, and it was a painting, so no need to include all at that resolution. Theyseem to be surrounding a raised syand, so presumably were at the raised alighting point for when the coach arrived in darkness.

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Mike, I've joined the Erdington Historical Society and at the last meeting I met Paul Leslie Lines who apparently drew this picture. I asked him about the object and he said it was the tollgate. Still haven't worked it out though.
 
This is a long thread. Shall tease out the main themes and create new threads or transfer posts to relevant existing threads. Viv.
 
I’ve seen this 1900 photo taken from the Church tower many times before but it’s only just registered you can see (I think) the old Roebuck pub - the building with the smoke belching straight up from the chimney. Viv.

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