Early 1940's Motorbike

[oldMohawk]

My sister sitting on a motorbike in front of 56 Grindleford Rd. It was slightly just before 1940 in spite of my thread title !
The houses were built and rented by the 1st National Housing Trust who sold them for £1100 to the tenants in the 60's. Most new owners soon replaced the small-pane windows with large sheets of glass. I don't know what make the bike was but the silencer looks pretty !

 

[jake]

the fish tail exhaust silencer was fitted to velocette motor cycles so i would think its a velocette possibly a 350cc

 

[oldMohawk]

Another pic. The helmet and goggles may have also been ok for flying a Tiger Moth !

 

[Stitcher]

Lovely photos oldMohawk

 

[dwilly]

see message below with attachment sorryhttps://www.pantherownersclub.com/PantherPage/p-m-4slw.html

 

[dwilly]

could it be a Red Panther?

https://www.pantherownersclub.com/PantherPage/p-m-4slw.html

 

[welder]

could it be a Red Panther?

https://www.pantherownersclub.com/PantherPage/p-m-4slw.html

Certainly looks the same. Panther singles frequently had their engines inclined forward and were nicknamed Slopers. Built by Phelon and Moore in Cleckheaton if memory serves.

Until I clicked on the link I'd had no idea that P and M had built some bikes exclusively for Pride and Clarke, although I'm not surprised as Pride and Clark had huge buying power. They made a fortune immediately post war by buying many, many surplus ex-military bikes and returning them to civilian spec and selling them on to the public.

I remember in the early 60's they had done some sort of deal with BMC and were knocking out Mini vans cheap. They made their money on "extras". A passenger seat was extra. Sun visors were extra. Spare wheel etc etc.

Ian

 

[oldMohawk]

Thanks Dwilly & Welder,
My sister had given me a load of family photos to scan. I'm amazed at the info and link you have found about this bike. One thing that puzzles me are the foot rests at the back, but no pillion seat.
oldmohawk...

 

[welder]

Thanks Dwilly & Welder,
My sister had given me a load of family photos to scan. I'm amazed at the info and link you have found about this bike. One thing that puzzles me are the foot rests at the back, but no pillion seat.
oldmohawk

Just a suggestion concerning the pillion footrests. The pillion seat would have been a very simple, upholstered pad bolted to the rear mudguard and would have been easily removed.
I note that the bike is displaying L-plates. Is it likely that the, then, learner laws didn't permit the carrying of a passenger and the pillion seat had been removed accordingly?
Even now, learners are only permitted to carry passengers who hold full licences.
Just a thought.

Ian

 

[Louis Dalby]

Certainly looks the same. Panther singles frequently had their engines inclined forward and were nicknamed Slopers. Built by Phelon and Moore in Cleckheaton if memory serves.

Until I clicked on the link I'd had no idea that P and M had built some bikes exclusively for Pride and Clarke, although I'm not surprised as Pride and Clark had huge buying power. They made a fortune immediately post war by buying many, many surplus ex-military bikes and returning them to civilian spec and selling them on to the public.

I remember in the early 60's they had done some sort of deal with BMC and were knocking out Mini vans cheap. They made their money on "extras". A passenger seat was extra. Sun visors were extra. Spare wheel etc etc.

Ian

Pride and Clarke also did a deal with the BSA taking the old AA bikes and Sidecars less the box's, They fitted new sidecar bodies and sold them as M20/21 with sidecar NOT EX WD. Ex BSA Test.

 

[welder]

Pride and Clarke also did a deal with the BSA taking the old AA bikes and Sidecars less the box's, They fitted new sidecar bodies and sold them as M20/21 with sidecar NOT EX WD. Ex BSA Test.

Louis, you and I obviously have similar interests. It strikes me that Pride and Clarke would do pretty well anything to generate wealth.
Maggie Thatcher would have been proud of them....Knighthood anyone?

Ian