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Eagle And Tun Cauliflower Ear Pub Banbury Street New Canal Street

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very sad news graham but not surprised ..i used to attend the HS2 meetings about 8 years ago in a vain attempt to plead for the fox and grapes to be retained...when pressing HS2 bosses about the eagle and tun they told me that they may have to take the roof off t it to accommodate the new station but the pub would remain so i let members on here know...never believed them of course and this latest news proves i was right not to trust them....so another old building and another piece of brum history will bite the dust...tragic but thank you for letting us know and welcome to the forum...i will hunt my files for any old photos of the pub for you..oh you are of course at liberty to post your email address on open forum but we do advise not to as you leave yourself open to spammers and hackers..you can edit your post and remove it or i can do it for you or as i said you can leave it visible as i am sure our members will rally round looking for old photos

lyn :mad:
 
Hands up time! That the reason why myself and a business partner tried to buy the pub and lost out at auction. If we could have got it at the price we set we knew a CPO would come in eventually and provide a much better return than any bank account would have!
 
Following a couple of pints at the Woodman down the road I dropped into the Eagle and Tun a couple of years ago. This was during a visit back to Birmingham when I decided to revisit few of my old haunts. I used both of these pubs during the mid seventies as I worked nearby. The landlord of the Eagle and Tun on my last visit was a very friendly Indian man and the beer was good as well. He gave me a free pint when I told him that I hadn't been in there for over forty years. Very sad to see it going and sad for me that I won't have a chance to pop in before it closes. At least The Woodman is surviving, I think...
 
Slowly but surely we are losing our soul one pub or one old building at a time, one day we will wake up and say what the hell happened for some that may have already come to pass.
I could go on a rant here but I know I am preaching to the choir.
We will never have pubs like the Eagle again, sure we can build one just like it but we can not build the soul of the pub we can not build the wear on the bar we can not build the smell the feel of the place, we are fighting a losing battle i'm afraid, my advise go to as many old pubs you can have a drink or two and take a photo.
 
ellbrown said:
Graham Young article in the Birmingham Mail quoting Astoness!

www.birminghammail.co.uk

Fears Digbeth will be 'unrecognisable' as pub to be demolished

History buffs and UB40 rail against plan to demolish the Eagle & Tun to make way for HS2 - amid fears Birmingham 'will have no past left'
www.birminghammail.co.uk www.birminghammail.co.uk
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thanks for the link to that birmingham mail report ell...had i known that my post was going to be quoted in it i would have said something a bit stronger...its another tragic loss for birmingham and one of its famous pubs...perhaps people will now start to believe that nothing is safe if its in the path of HS2...its not just historical buildings that up and down the country are losing..its also peoples homes..businesses...ancient woodland..burial grounds being dug up and bodies removed from their final resting places (this has happened with our own park st burial ground).this project is a force that can not be reckoned with...how right brian travers was to say that birmingham will soon have no past...we have been saying that on this forum for years

graham if you read this post and you ever do another write up on this subject you are quite welcome to quote my latest post...and as proof of HS2 telling me that this pub was to be retained here is a snippet of the plans they gave me

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all the best

lyn
 
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its a great idea jan and one that could have also saved the fox and grapes but i think its too late in the day now to try and get funding to rebuild the eagle and tun at the black country living museum...i shall follow this idea with interest and hope that someone can help this happen

lyn
 
Astoness said:
thanks for the link to that birmingham mail report ell...had i known that my post was going to be quoted in it i would have said something a bit stronger...its another tragic loss for birmingham and one of its famous pubs...perhaps people will now start to believe that nothing is safe if its in the path of HS2...its not just historical buildings that up and down the country are losing..its also peoples homes..businesses...ancient woodland..burial grounds being dug up and bodies removed from their final resting places (this has happened with our own park st burial ground).this project is a force that can not be reckoned with...how right brian travers was to say that birmingham will soon have no past...we have been saying that on this forum for years

graham if you read this post and you ever do another write up on this subject you are quite welcome to quote my latest post...and as proof of HS2 telling me that this pub was to be retained here is a snippet of the plans they gave me

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all the best

lyn
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No problem Lyn. Has Graham been back on here since do you know?

Don't have time at the moment to go back to Eastside to check it out again.

I think a UB40 article said there idea is to move it brick bt brick to the Black Country Living Museum. But they don't have the money themselves!
 
hi ell graham was online yesterday so has not yet seen the last few posts on this thread made today

as said in last post i think its too late now to find the money to bring the pub to the black country museum but who knows..

lyn
 
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Pedrocut said:
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I read the article but it I could not find any agreement that the Black Country Museum would take it, even if the money could be found.
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ahh i see pedro...well i cant speak for the black country museum but at the moment they are busy undergoing a massive new project to bring in a lot more of their own at risk buildings and rebuilding them at the museum so i doubt they would be interested in birminghams buildings..shame that the powers that be here could not have had the same idea when they had the chance

lyn
 
Well now I am upset this HS 2 deal may not be the best what I thought was the loss of a great old pub has turned into sad news budget over runs completion dates pushed way into the future.
Lies being told to a forum member when the money to Sava a pub is so small in the grand scheme of things.

Wouldn't having the pub inside the new station be cool a real shame.
I could have a pint before going to Crewe at 250 MPH on a train ? If I can afford a ticket in 2040
 
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I took this photo on Boxing Day of the Eagle & Tun from Banbury Street near New Canal Street.



Was also a hole in the window.



Noticed a lot of HS2 demolition sites all around.

Hope this is saved.
 
According to Tripadvisor it was open until at least last month. But sadly it gets terrible reviews. Viv.
 
A very confusing picture emerges about the Eagle & Tun. The place does appear as part of the Curzon re-development but the Mail article suggests otherwise. I must admit if it is to be a part of the new HS2 Curzon development then it would have to close (4th. January, 2020 is mentioned) and be re-furbished. Broken windows and other less likeable features would have to be remedied, after all this area is designed to prestigious, and some 'old boozer' would not fit in well. Maybe the exterior will remain and some of the fixtures but upgraded it would have to be.
One thing I am not sure about is the Black Country Museum choice. If you are going to dismantle 'brick by brick' then somewhere in the city could be found and would be as good as anywhere. The BC Museum already has a pub. The Bottle & Glass and two other refreshment places besides the fish & chop shop. Somehow I doubt they would want more.
 
thinking about it again i dont see why the black country museum should save the eagle and tun...its not one of their buildings and they have been busy for almost 50 years saving their own history and are still doing so...just a shame birmingham did not have the same vision...just think what buildings we could have saved...
 
Astoness said:
thinking about it again i dont see why the black country museum should save the eagle and tun...its not one of their buildings and they have been busy for almost 50 years saving their own history and are still doing so...just a shame birmingham did not have the same vision...just think what buildings we could have saved...
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Indeed Lyn, it is not that the city did not have anywhere when you think of all the large former industrial and railway sites that have become housing estates and tin shed style business parks.
 
ellbrown said:
What about the Avoncroft Museum of Historic Buildings near Bromsgrove?
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not sure but i think avoncroft have been mentioned ell they have one of our old prefabs..to be honest no one wanted to save the 17th century fox and grapes or the 16th century golden lion which still lies rotting in cannon hill park so i cant see much hope for the much later eagle and tun..
 
It's just become one more bit of Brum history that is about to disappear forever, which is a great shame. Even given the cost of removing it elsewhere - and that has not been forthcoming - it would not look the same in a museum or park setting. As you say, Lyn, the Golden Lion is just rotting away.....................

Maurice :cool:
 
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