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Dartmouth Street

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RobertS

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Hello there folks.

I'm looking for general photographs of Dartmouth Steet and they seem a bit elusive. Searched the forum, but may have missed some on linked sites.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?

thanks
 
Please can anybody tell me what was at 108 Dartmouth Street in 1905.

Any help solving this puzzle would be appreciated.

I have a death certificate for a chap (Edward Moore age 48) that died in May 1905. His address was given as 108 Dartmouth Street, Duddeston.
Cause of death apoplexy natural causes
There is no informant the certificate was signed by the coroner

The census of 1901 gives the occupants of this address as:
Joseph Beckett head 63 gun maker
Emma Beckett wife 63 inn keeper manageress public
Gertrude Beckett granddaughter 18 barmaid
Frederick Allen boarder glass blower
Sarah Billiard visitor steel pen box maker

We could do with finding out more about this guy as he could be a missing twig on the tree
 
I have a listing in Kelly's 1903 Directory 108 Dartmouth St, Hill Chas Edward beer retailer.

Phil
 
There is an Edward Moore living in Garbett St,Ladywood in 1901 and his occupation was a drayman....................perhaps (if it's the same person) he was delivering beer when he died!!
 
Thank you but much as I like the theory of him dying delivering beer the Ladywood Edward isn't the same one.
Very confusing we have two Edwards born about the same time one in Eckington,Worcestershire and one in Aston.
My Edward is the Aston one.
I shall be down in Birmingham on Friday and have arranged to have a look at the coroners report which I hope will provide more information
 
Mystery solved.
Been down to Birmingham today and have a copy of the coroners report.
108 Dartmouth Street was a pub called the Malt Shovel.
Poor Edward he had been abstemious for four years due to gout and then goes and dies in a public house after drinking milk and soda (yuk!)
To add insult to injury he was carried into the back yard where he had water poured onto him
 
Hello folks

does anyone know when Dartmouth Street and environs was first developed? I'm having trouble tracking this down.

Thanks
 
hi guys
i can recall the old dartmouth street
and i workrd at the randals plating and the old cannal tow pathe ran along side of it
there was no windows on the rear side on the cannal tow pathe the conditions was very bad indeed
this was 1958-to 1960
water was every where and the old fashioned electric system
with cables running around your feet
when it rained the vats used to flood over christ knows how we got through it day after day plus the cold winds and rain
belting in on us there was only six of us working rgere rhat included the two brothers whom owned the place
i was glad to go and finf employment else where
and i went to work with my uncle bill smart and his brother at the .b.ham bottle exchange at the st michaels hill
the owners was a solicter
bill and joe smart had been working for him for donkeys years
and a group of ladies whom sorted the empty bottles out onthe track that ran aroundthe yard
have a nice day every body best wishes astonion;;;;
 
Thanks for the Pevsner Mike g.

Still trwaling to see if I can find a date for first development and completion.

regards
 
Trying to find out where Dartmouth Street was. Was it anything to do with Lower Dartmouth Street? 1880 1890 period.


Terry
 
heneage st no 24 and dartmouth st house 2 court 17.jpghi terry yes i believe lower dartmouth was part of dartmouth st...if it is of any help here is a map showing court 17 dartmouth st in pink and to the right in blue is no 24 is heneage st...i had rellies at these addresses in 1841 and 51

lyn
 
Terry

In fact Lower Dartmouth St was quite a little way from Dartmouth St. on the map on the left hand side you will see Dartmouth St running from Aston Rd to Ashted Row. Then comes Lawley Street that runs to the junction of Garrison Lane then we have Lower Dartmouth St that runs up the side of the recreation ground (Ichycoo Park). I suppose it is entirely possible that at one time that Lawley St was at one time part of Dartmouth St, as it is strange that Lower Darmouth St is some half a mile or so from Dartmouth St.
 

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Not sure this is the right thread, but came across this picture of Dartmouth Street in 1957 from The Sphere.
 
Hi

I wonder if Lawley Street was H Lawley Street?...I have a document for my ancestors marriage stating one lived at 41 Dartmouth Street and the other at 47 (?) H Lawley Street?
 
Hi Kain

Welcome to you, I certainly can't ever remember Lawley Street being called H Lawley Street and I have never seen it listed as such. Number 47 would have been somewhat opposite Foster Street and I think was fronting a back court. Are you sure it wasn't 47A Lawley Street. I lived five minutes walk from this location at one time and the street number of our house was 190A. I'm sure that census records would be easily enough checked to see if there was in fact a number 47A on Lawley Street and indeed if that was where your ancestor lived.
 
Kain

You didn't give a date for the document you have, as I've checked the trade directories as far back as 1900 and numbers 45 , 47, & 49 Lawley Street keep coming up as commercial addresses.
 
hi jessica it would have been demolished to make way for new roads...its a very small world...my 4xgt grandfather was also living in dartmouth st in 1841 as a glassblower so chances are he knew your george owen..here is a photo of dartmouth st dated 1895 with the union glass works on the left..i would think it had changed very little from 1841dartmouth st union glass on right 1895.jpg

lyn
 
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