Hi, can anyone help, I have found my 3 x great grandfather Edward Cookes who was baptized on 27/10/1800 at St Martins, Birmingham, Warwickshire son of Mary Cookes, with no fathers name. The next time I find Edward is in the parish of Bromsgrove, Worcestershire marring Hannah Turbefield on the 28/12/1817. Is their any way of finding who is father was and where they were living in St Martins before he was born and what happened to him and his mother from 1800 to 1817 ?. I just am unable to find any records unless anybody might know where I can look. Thank you.
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Cookes Mary and Edward 1799
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MWS
from Bham
If he was the illegitimate son of Mary Cooke then the chances are finding his father is virtually zero.
However, that he is the son of Mary is also debatable. Baptism date does not always indicate the year of birth and there are other possibilities.
Unless you can find a connection between Edward and Mary later on then - a child living with a relative, a relative living with Edward etc - then I wouldn't be sure that your Edward is the son of Mary.
Also what happened between his birth and marriage will probably be impossible to find out sadly, there just aren't the records available.
However, that he is the son of Mary is also debatable. Baptism date does not always indicate the year of birth and there are other possibilities.
Unless you can find a connection between Edward and Mary later on then - a child living with a relative, a relative living with Edward etc - then I wouldn't be sure that your Edward is the son of Mary.
Also what happened between his birth and marriage will probably be impossible to find out sadly, there just aren't the records available.
Hi thank you for all your comments, yes I thought it might be like looking for a needle in a hay stack. I must admit I had not thought about Mary not being his mother just accepted what was written. When I was young in the 1970's and getting interested about my family tree, I ask my parents who gave me the names of my grandparents John Henry and Ella Cooke, my great grandparents Charles Edward and Susan Cooke, my 2 x gg Edward and Ruth Cooke and my 3 x gg Edward and Hannah Cooke. They also told me that my 2 and 3rd gg where needle makers in the Redditch, Warwickshire before Ancestry and searching the internet. When I joined Ancestry in 2020 and started searching census and other things it all pointed me to Edward and Mary Cookes. The thing that is also interesting is that both Edward and Hannah both signed the wedding records when they were about 17 or 18 years old and not with an X, so did they have some education ?. Hannah was born in Arrow in Warwickshire so I wonder how they meet, perhaps we will never know they answers. Thank you for your input.
Hi thank you for seeing my reply to both of you and your input.
MWS
from Bham
New records become available all the time so I wouldn't give up hope.
The oldest of the children with the Edward and Maria I mentioned previously in 1841 is just 16 so there are possible older children. Also not all children were baptised in the place they were born.
Worcestershire is not the best county for online records.
Thank you, I will have a look. I know that Edward Cooke & Hannah (Turberville) Cooke are on WikiTree as I know that Hannah is a descendant of Geoffrey Plantaganet & King Edward III and Scottish kings and others