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Cheapside Deritend

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negritaspider

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Hi all,
In the census' I have a family living at 59 Cheapside...(1871-81)
But on baptism info, the address is Rea St.
Are these inter-related, or different?
 
No 59 is listed in the 1876 and 1880 directories as James Village, shopkeeper, but he could have had lodgers. No 59 is between birchall and lombard st. Rea St is the next one up from birchall st. So it couldn't have been a building on the corner of the two
roads Mike
 
The family name is correct - so father and son must have had seperate addresses. Son was probably visiting him on the nights of the census!
Thanks!

Any info in Kelly's re the shop??
They were all whipmakers........
 
negritaspider said:
thanks lloyd!
So I can assume that No 59 must have been on the corner of the two streets!
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hello and welcome,unusual name negritaspider.
found a photo i downloaded from here or about,thought it mite be of interest. hope you find what you,re looking for. regards dereklcg
 
No mention of type of shop in 1876 or 1880, but in 1884 and 1888 he is at the same address listed as whip maker. By 1892he has moved his business to 187 cheapside, sharing with a furniture dealer , and stays there till at least 1904. But by 1908 he is not listed. But in 1908 there is a John Village, shopkeeper at 27 cheapside, which is 3 doors away from the junction with Rea st. By 1912 the only Village listed is a pikelet maker at 63 Greenway st
Mike
 
John was the son, and his occupation was in previous census' 'tin plate metal worker'....
would that fit in with pikelet maker - as I have no idea what that is:( ?
 
Not much connection. A pikelet is a form of baked goods, like a crumpet. gthere's been some disareement as to the difference in the past, but they are round, made of a form of bread dough and are toasted. I should also have added that the pikelet maker was a Frederick Village, but missed it out. sorry.
Mike
 
didn't want to seem stupid - but that's what I thought pikelets were!
Love 'em, especially when they ooze with butter!!!

Either way, I think there's a frederick somewhere, and also a master baker - so it may all just tie in!
Ta! :D
 
What a great photo, Thats the Birds Custard//Maxwell House works down on the right hand side, Now apartments I think.
 
mikejee said:
No mention of type of shop in 1876 or 1880, but in 1884 and 1888 he is at the same address listed as whip maker. By 1892he has moved his business to 187 cheapside, sharing with a furniture dealer , and stays there till at least 1904. But by 1908 he is not listed. But in 1908 there is a John Village, shopkeeper at 27 cheapside, which is 3 doors away from the junction with Rea st. By 1912 the only Village listed is a pikelet maker at 63 Greenway st
Mike
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Just wanted to bring you all up to date - took a looooong time to sort everything out!!

James Village was a whip maker, living in Rea St, then moved before 1871 to 59 Cheapside.
The only problem I have is that his death seems to be recorded as in 1886 - so the sons kept the business on??
His son, John, once grown, stayed in Rea St - but on his second marriage with Catherine Stoll moved to 27 Cheapside (she is noted as the shopowner!)

I am still trying to work out the link for 187 Cheapside................:D
 
yard at the back of cheapside dated around 1908...in the foreground is a commmunal standpipe providing water for all the folk of the yard...

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A brilliant picture Lyn - so many things to look at. I love the jug by the standpipe and the bowl on the stool by the back door - the floor around it looks wet as if someone has just been doing washing and then popped back inside the house. Also the dodgy brickwork around the window (above the man)- it looks like someone has just decided to knock some bricks out to add an extra window. Thanks for posting it.
 
topsy i agree the chimneys do look bigger than the average ones...

thanks pol..i have to admit that i do love this type of image...they give such an insight into how folk lived back in the day...

lyn
 
Great pic Lyn, do you know which yard it is? I have a special interest in Cheapside as some of my ancestors lived there.

Paul
 
and i would agree with you 100% paul..same window shutters..same lamp..same water pump with jug in the yard...

well done...

lyn
 
That would agree with the plan of court 7, with two houses at street end with narrow entry to the right looking towatds the street and no sheds at the street end opposite the houses
Mike

map_c_1889_court_7_cheapside.jpg
 
brilliant mike..thanks for the map and the extra confirmation that we have court 7...

lyn
 
Thanks Mike, I love it when it all comes together.

What I find amazing is the different styles of house in this court. What are the buildings farthest from the street? Surely they are too small to be houses?

Paul
 
hi group I haven’t been on this site for a while ,did anyone work on cheapside in the early seventies?
 
On a Cesus 1911 the address is given 25 let 2 Cheapside, I gather that is Court 25 house No 2? has anyone got any pictures of Court 25 Cheapside?
 
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