Bull Street

[Colroy07]

Crockford grove Bull street old shop ready for demolition 1905. New shop built 1907 picture from 1910.

 

[Pedrocut]

Pencil Drawing Bull Street from High Street, Birmingham, 1835 c
By Samuel Lines Snr.
(Birmingham Museums)

 

[Richard Dye]

Crockford grove Bull street old shop ready for demolition 1905. New shop built 1907 picture from 1910.

Is the new shop still standing? It has a lot of character.

 

[Colroy07]

If you look close at the picture . The sign says union passage so this means it must have gone before I can rember . In the. 1960 all those buildings were new in that part of bull street . I assume it would be were you went across bull street heading towards oasis market.

 

[Pedrocut]

A drawing of the Old Lamb House/Suffields in better days. Looks like Lamb House was originally made up of 3 distinct shops. Viv.

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Ink Drawing The Old Lamb House, Bull Street, Birmingham By Jethro A Cossins. (Pulled down 1886)
(Birmingham Museums)

 

[ed.s]

Interesting that that sketch of the Lamb House shows gables that weren't present at its demolition in 1886, nor going back as far as the 1835 sketch of post #422.

The Birmingham Daily Mail article "Destruction of the Oldest House in Birmingham" (18th May 1886) recounts that the building was to be stripped back to its original timbers for inspection and recording before being pulled down.

Perhaps the sketch above was part of that recording process and the author, Jethro Cossins (1830-1917), being an architect, was extrapolating the building's original construction from what the timbers revealed.

The Mail piece quotes a 1772 description of the vicinity (the "Welch End" neighbourhood) showing that the name "Lamb House" goes back at least that far, considerably pre-dating the time that my Allday relatives sold (and raised?) their "house lamb" from the premises in the 1820s. Prior to that, the house is claimed to have been the "Fox and Dogs", suggesting it was a public house.

(For those with access the Mail article is on the British Newspaper Archive)

 

[Colroy07]

These two maps don’t have dates but we’re a long time apart the first one shows welch end . But not bull street. Then the later one shows corporation street as proposed new road. Very interesting when you look closely at them both.

 

[Pedrocut]

The second map is dated circa 1876 on one site.

 

[Colroy07]

The lamb and as it was as haywards drapers.

 

[RobT]

The lamb and as it was as haywards drapers.

Another photo of the Lamb

 

[Richard Dye]

These two maps don’t have dates but we’re a long time apart the first one shows welch end . But not bull street. Then the later one shows corporation street as proposed new road. Very interesting when you look closely at them both.

Spectacular maps showing a chronological change in Birmingham! Thank you for sharing…

 

[ed.s]

These two maps don’t have dates but we’re a long time apart the first one shows welch end . But not bull street. Then the later one shows corporation street as proposed new road. Very interesting when you look closely at them both.

Fascinating. The first appears to be an extract from Joseph Hill's "Plan of Birmingham 1553 (conjectural)", which he put together in the 1890s, based on a detailed survey of Birmingham from that year of Queen Mary's reign.

Chappell Street became Bull St (I have a print of a 1731 map showing both names). I guess Priors Conygre Lane must be the forerunner of Steelhouse lane.

Birmingham library has a copy of the full 1553 plan, which you can see a low-res copy of here:

Early maps in the Heritage Research Area

For this week’s blog I thought I’d take a look at some of the early maps that we hold in our collections. Maps are interesting in that they give us an insight into how areas looked and were lived i…

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A translated and annotated copy of the original 1553 survey is available free on Google Books:

Survey of the Borough and Manor, Or Demesne Foreign, of Birmingham, Made in ... 1553 [by Clement Throkmorton]. Translated from the Original Document ... in the Public Record Office by W.B. Bickley. With Notes and an Introduction by Joseph Hill, and a

www.google.co.uk

 

[Richard Dye]

Fascinating. The first appears to be an extract from Joseph Hill's "Plan of Birmingham 1553 (conjectural)", which he put together in the 1890s, based on a detailed survey of Birmingham from that year of Queen Mary's reign.

Chappell Street became Bull St (I have a print of a 1731 map showing both names). I guess Priors Conygre Lane must be the forerunner of Steelhouse lane.

Birmingham library has a copy of the full 1553 plan, which you can see a low-res copy of here:

Early maps in the Heritage Research Area

For this week’s blog I thought I’d take a look at some of the early maps that we hold in our collections. Maps are interesting in that they give us an insight into how areas looked and were lived i…

theironroom.wordpress.com

A translated and annotated copy of the original 1553 survey is available free on Google Books:

Survey of the Borough and Manor, Or Demesne Foreign, of Birmingham, Made in ... 1553 [by Clement Throkmorton]. Translated from the Original Document ... in the Public Record Office by W.B. Bickley. With Notes and an Introduction by Joseph Hill, and a

www.google.co.uk

Fascinating! So much history, certainly was not remotely aware of….

Hello, does anyone have any photographs of Cropwood in the 1960s, specifically about a Sylvia Doughty who is my Mom who recently passed away. I’m wanting to find out more about her time at Cropwood. I understand she was there from aged 11 and then I understand she returned to work there in her early 20s before she met my father. Any information would be great. Thank you.