Lyn, you are right the Barbers was Ray's first shop, opened about 1955/56. Patty worked for Ray some years later in the mid 70s I think, when he had a joint Ladies/Gents shop next to Sainsburys in the Newtown Shopping Centre. I have at long last found the photos of that shop and hope to get some prints this week to send to her, no doubt she will post them on the Forum eventually.