The Fodens of Booths Farm in 1899. Viv.
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Booths Farm
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Ever dig up any counterfeit coins Lyn ?! Viv.
iwould like to bet there are still a few coins knocking around thoughI'm on the committee of Great Barr, Beeches and Perry Barr Neighbourhood Planning Forum. I'm trying to find information about the development of the area from rural to urban..especially the Booths Farm area where I believe the woodland was ripped out for housing but houses built had large gardens..how was this planned etc. I would be grateful for any pointers on this type of history or where I can research it.
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Helen
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Helen
pjmburns
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If you go to this web site https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/ and enter an appropriate post code you will see a modern map on the rhs but on the lhs will be a selection of maps through the years, click on a map from lhs and it will appear on the right. You can then see how the area has changed. Some scales are better than others. To get the best magnification you need a subscription but I find it is clear enough without one.
Alternatively you can use this site https://maps.nls.uk/os/6inch-england-and-wales/index.html you can choose the middle option and use the large blue dot to move from modern to old to see change. Or use the top for individual maps.
Alternatively you can use this site https://maps.nls.uk/os/6inch-england-and-wales/index.html you can choose the middle option and use the large blue dot to move from modern to old to see change. Or use the top for individual maps.
Here’s an article from the Birmingham Daily Gazette of 28 March 1933 about a ‘small’ wood affected by the development. Viv.
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Glennys Jean
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This is most probably Charles Foden 1842-1908, wife Eliza, daughter Jane & son Arthur.
Pedrocut
Master Barmmie
For discussion of the Foden Family see the Thread here...
Children of William Foden
She is still in Perry Barr. George is not present. There are possibly a couple of newspaper articles about her in 1908, Lichfield Mercury & Staffordshire Advertiser. Then I don't know if this is just a weird coincidence or something more but there is a marriage for an Emma E Barnes and a Henry...
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ollias meerbrook
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a more recent gmaps view.....the farm foundations are in the centre of image...
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Welcome Ollias. I see a nod to the Booths Farm history in the naming of ‘Forger Close’ ! Viv.
ollias meerbrook
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my pleasure.....just noticed them yesterday as i went for a walk....i guess the developers were made to leave the footings as part of their planning application....
ollias meerbrook
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Thanks...it`s a nice touch when some part of the past is kept alive in road names....
mw0njm.
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am i not surprised? prob made in china pete
ollias meerbrook
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it could well be...... i read somewhere that he also produced legitimate coins and tokens as a cover for the other side of his business.....ebay prices....!!!!...
yes quite possible viv although a bit more research would be needed before i was convinced it was a william booth from booths farm coin and if it is i cant see it being a forgery as the name is on the coin....i could be wrong but i think a lot of his forgeries were also in note form..will do a big of digging...i believe he died in 1812..if it is a genuine william booth coin then i can see why the asking price is so high..here is a photo of what is left of his farm
lyn
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just had a bit of a read up and william booth was hanged 12th august 1812...the coin is dated 1811...we have the image of the wheatsheaf on the coin to indicate the farming industry and of course the name wm booth on it...so i am sticking my neck out now by saying i think it is a genuine legit coin struck with many others to take the heat off the forged coins and notes he made unless of course booth spent the whole of 1811 on remand awaiting trial (not sure if that happened back then)...if so it is probably one of the last he made..viv does the seller of the coin say it came from booths farm...fascinating
lyn
lyn
Thanks Lyn. Unfortunately there was no other info with the listing of the coin.
There’s irony in the fact that we’re debating whether an alleged Booth coin is a fake or real. Think Booth would have appreciated that ! Viv.
There’s irony in the fact that we’re debating whether an alleged Booth coin is a fake or real. Think Booth would have appreciated that ! Viv.
viv i am quite sure william booth would have appreciated the debate lol...with nothing definate to attribute the coin to booths farm although everything seems to point to it i am sure a good coin expert would at least be able to tell if it was 200 years old ..if it is then that would be a bonus...
lyn
Hi,
Whoever made it, it's not a coin but a token, made at a time of a shortage of small change.
Of course it might be a reproduction made in modern times,
If Booth made and issued it, it would not be a forgery, and you would think that to make it worthwhile to
produce a token like this you would need to make a lot.
You wouldn't expect in either case it was really worth much!
Kind regards
Dave
Whoever made it, it's not a coin but a token, made at a time of a shortage of small change.
Of course it might be a reproduction made in modern times,
If Booth made and issued it, it would not be a forgery, and you would think that to make it worthwhile to
produce a token like this you would need to make a lot.
You wouldn't expect in either case it was really worth much!
Kind regards
Dave
The coin does seem remarkably bright for a copper coin that is 200 years old. Unless it has been kept under nitrogen, I would have thought it would be more oxidised. Of course it could have been cleaned, but did not think cleaning was recommended for collectors coins