Richard Dye
master brummie
Looks like a very nice place!
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Birmingham (or very close by) pubs that you would have liked to visit.
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1000 Trades in Frederick St. Jewellery Quarter as excellent real ale. I'm not sure of the history of this pub, but the atmosphere is good.
Richard Dye
master brummie
I will put that on our list of places.
It has no great history as a pub, being established in 2015 it turns out. https://1000trades.org.uk/about-us/history/
But there are some pubs which have original features, but don't sell craft beer/ real ales.
Never been to the Craven Arms Upper Gough Street, but an Edwardian tiled exterior and Black Country Ales.
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Craven Arms, Birmingham - Pub Gallery
Photos and description of the Craven Arms, Birmingham with its stunning gold and blue tiled frontage advertising a long gone brewery.
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It's well worth a visit. A nice place for a quiet chat and a swift half.Never been to the Craven Arms Upper Gough Street, but an Edwardian tiled exterior and Black Country Ales.
Craven Arms, Birmingham - Pub Gallery
Photos and description of the Craven Arms, Birmingham with its stunning gold and blue tiled frontage advertising a long gone brewery.
http://www.closedpubs.co.uk/index.html
In excess of 42,000 closed pubs, including my old Smethwick stamping ground. Puffing Billy, Molliet Arms, Barley Corn and in Worcestershire The Butcher's Arms in Stoke Prior which brewed its own cider. The old farmers at closing time, turned off their lights and drove home over the fields. Now a row of houses.
In excess of 42,000 closed pubs, including my old Smethwick stamping ground. Puffing Billy, Molliet Arms, Barley Corn and in Worcestershire The Butcher's Arms in Stoke Prior which brewed its own cider. The old farmers at closing time, turned off their lights and drove home over the fields. Now a row of houses.
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Richard Dye
master brummie
That is an incredible number of closures! What if anything replaced those venues?
I think a shift in consumer behaviour over a period of years. Alcohol can be bought in bottles from the supermarket and drunk at home. Younger people tend to drink less. Covid shut some pubs forever, but the structure of the industry made it increasingly difficult for an independent landlord or a tenant to make money.
There used to be a pub on every street corner. CAMRA says beer tax, business rates and PubCo reform. https://camra.org.uk/take-action/
Most of the successful pubs are often restaurants as well. But others become housing developments, blocks of flats, offices or convert to another form of business. Often they are demolished.
That 42,000 is measured over a long time. https://www.statista.com/statistics/310723/total-number-of-pubs-in-the-united-kingdom/ says 14k pubs were lost from 2000- 2022.
The Telegraph and The Guardian agree for once, pubs are in decline and it is hard to stop this. (I've linked to two journalistic pieces.)
The Butcher's Arms I mentioned was owned by an elderly lady. Her relative inherited the pub, but perhaps understandably didn't want to run it and it is now a small housing development retaining much of the original external features. In its glory days it served the thirsty salt workers and farm workers. The cider is a memory. I drank two bottles of Dunkertons with my meal last night at a restaurant, tasty but carbonated and an entirely different product to draught.
there a few pubs i would have liked to have gone in but the one that upsets me the most has to the magnificent woodman that was on easy row the inside and outside was amazing...what another massive blunder by bcc...in fact in my opinion losing the whole of easy row was tragic but this is just me appreciating great architecture of the past never to be seen again...
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Bob Davis
Bob Davis
When we were on one of our canal trips, we tied up in Tipton basin visited the Fountain. Very crowded, they made space for us, my daughter is disabled, checked we were OK and made sure we enjoyed an evening of Black Country hospitality. Super pub, reasonable prices as well.
Bob
That's good to hear, Bob. And good to know they welcomed your daughter. Derek
Richard Dye
master brummie
It sounds also that republican did not or we’re not able to change with the times. I remember in the late 50 early 60’s bead , cheese and beer were all I could afford. In my travels to Germany, Sweden, France and Italy for business in the 70’s through 2016 it seemed all pub type places sold ”bar food” as we say in the US (and I’m sure other places) maybe two steps higher than local finger food.
Where we live in TN, there are a couple of so called English & Irish pubs that are standing room only Wednesday through Sunday. BTW we have a Churchillian Society in Franklin (off topic, sorry).
Thank Derek for you insight, it is appreciated!
Richard, you will notice some changes when you come to Birmingham. There are some large standing room only pubs in the centre of Birmingham on Friday and Saturday nights, but these do not attract older customers or anyone wanting a quiet conversation. They are very different from the traditional pubs. Derek
Richard Dye
master brummie
Interesting model, the standing for a long time would not work for us! Also the so called older crowd tend to have more £’s available. At least here, although you never know.