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Betts, Brinkworth, Buckler

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maggie2

Halfblood Brummie
Searching for any info on above in and around Aston, Erdington, Saltley areas pre-1940's.
Albert Brinkworth 1853, Frances C (nee Betts?) 1855, Laura 1877, Clara Buckler (nee Brinkworth) 1880, Albert 1883
Percival/Percy Buckler 1879.
Have census info for 1881 and 1901 - Brinkworths were Grocers, Bucklers were Pawnbrokers.
Any other census info gratefully received.
Thanks
Maggie :angel:
 
In 1911 Albert and Frances Brinkworth were living with daughter Clara and her husband, Percival Buckler at 18 Wood End Rd, Erdington.
Percy and Clara moved to 29 Sycamore Rd by 1920.
In 1925 they are living at 3 Alleyne Rd, Erdington and by 1927 at 41 Stoney Lane Balsall Heath.
1930 sees Percy without Clara, but with Arthur John and Margaret Lesley Buckler at 161 Park Rd Aston until at least 1939.
Deaths Mar 1928
Clara Buckler 47 Birmingham S. 6d 127
Deaths Sep 1911
Albert Brinkworth 58 Aston 6d 378
Deaths Jun 1939
Frances C Brinkworth 85 Birmingham 6d 117
 
Laura Matilda married Sidney Grant Edmunds,who was a joiner in the building industry.
They lived at 157 Alum Rock Road Saltley Birmingham in 1911 until 1930.
1935 sees them at 709 Alum Rock Road and by 1945 they are at 584 Warwick Road,Acocks Green
Marriages Mar 1899
Laura Matilda Brinkworth Aston 6d 347
Sidney Grant Edmunds Aston 6d 347
 
I think this is Albert in 1861...the (....?) are things I'm not sure of
Aston, 68 Willis Street
Benjamin Brinkworth...33...Machinest...(Bisley ?) Gloucestershire
Sarah (S ?)...34...Wife.........Birmingham
Charles (J ?) 11...Son...Warehouse Boy....Aston
Walter...9...Son....Scholar...Aston
ALBERT...7...Son..Scholar...Aston
Sarah (J ?)...6...Daughter...Scholar...Aston
Arthur...4..Son...Aston
Elizabeth...1...Daughter...Aston
Allis (Alice in 1871)..1..Daughter...Aston

1871 29 Oliver Street
Benjamin...43...Railway Carriage Maker...(Stroud ?) Gloucestershire
Sarah...44...Birmingham
Walter...20...Jeweller
ALBERT...18...Steel Toy Maker
Sarah (J?)...17...(Music ?) Case maker
Elizabeth...11
Alice..11
(Laura ?) 4

In 1891 Albert...38..Grocer..and Frances C...36..are at 57 Alum Rock Road with Laura M...14, Clara...11 and Albert B...8...also a servant Matilda Freeman
 
1841 Francis Street, Aston
Thomas Brinkworth...35..Labourer...Jane ..35....Martha..17...BENJAMIN..14..Henry..12..Susan..9...John..7...Nathaniel..2...Thomas..5...Sarah..1 month
 
Thank you to all you wonderful brummies who have helped me to piece together another branch of my family tree.
Can anyone tell me where Frances Clara Brinkworth was in 1930? and what was her maiden name, marriage record, family background. Think it could have been Betts but not sure where I got that idea from.
 
Would Frances have been the same lady as in #2 that died in 1939 ?

EDIT...Answered that one...Frances died at 161 Park Road, a widow, 22 may 1939, Probate, Birmingham, 9 June to Arthur John Buckler, Production Clerk.

Albert Brinkworth married Frances Clara Betts, Aston, 4th quarter, 1875, Vol 6d Page 615

Hopefully someone will be able to tell you where she was in 1930, I do not have access to those records
 
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lindyloo said:
Albert Brinkworth married Frances Clara Betts, Aston, 4th quarter, 1875, Vol 6d Page 615
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Thanks Lindyloo this is great info. It is the same Frances. I was trying to establish if the Betts were the Grocers, as there doesnt appear to be any link with the Brinkworths until Albert is listed as Grocer aged 38 in 1891. Any ideas?
Maggie:angel:

I can link to all these Brinkworths - Thank you Lindyloo and LadyLinda :triumphant:
 
Maggie
Don’t know if this is any help. Can find no Betts listed in directories as grocers in period 1872- 1892, though there was a fishmonger, greengrocer & a shopkeeper (which could be a small shop that sold some groceries). Did not go further than 1892

Albert Brinkworth is listed in directories and seems to have started running an offlicence, but then changed to a grocer & offlicence.. Beer retailer can mean offlicence or a beerhouse (licenced to sell beer only), but I think it likely it was an off licence. The address in Long Acre is not listed in the directory in 1888 or immediately afterwards.

1882-4 Brinkworth Albert, beer retailer, 382 Long acre
1888-92 Brinkworth Albert grocer & beer retailer 57 Alum Rock Rd. Saltley.
Again didn’t go past 1892
mike
 
mikejee said:
Maggie
Don’t know if this is any help. Can find no Betts listed in directories as grocers in period 1872- 1892, though there was a fishmonger, greengrocer & a shopkeeper (which could be a small shop that sold some groceries). Did not go further than 1892
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Hi Mike
Do you have the details for the above Betts, as I think they could be Frances' family (before she married Albert).

Thankyou so much for looking into all this for me.

Maggie :angel:
 
There are quite a lot of Betts, but the following are in the categories I named. The date is date of publication, and information would be collected before this , so it would probably apply to year before. :

1862 Betts George confectioner 11 Bedford Road
1867 Betts George confectioner 22 Aston St.
1867-68 Betts Emma (Mrs) shopkeeper 27 Cregoe St
1867-68 Betts Peter fishmonger 31 Vauxhall Road
1872 Betts Rachel (Mrs.), shopkeeper, 477 Park road, Hockley
1873 Betts Joseph, shopkeeper. 28 Navigation street
1876 None listed in those categories
1878-80 Betts Edward, shopkeeper 13 Sherbourne Road
1878-82 Betts Rachel (Mrs.), shopkeeper 10 Barr St west
1880-82 Betts Phillip greengrocer 30 Russell St
1882-84 Betts Phillip 34 Steelhouse Lane
1888-90 Betts Benjamin, shopkeeper, 25 Cattell's grove
1888-92 Betts James, shopkeeper, 39 Bromsgrove street
1890 Betts Herbert John 64 Cox St West
1890-92 Betts Edwin, shopkeeper 2 Marshall St
1892 Betts Benjamin, dairy, 25 Cattell's grove
1892 Betts John, dairyman, 18 Wynn street
1892 Betts Walter, shopkeeper, 15 Ashford street

There are several other Betts who are cowkeepers or dairyman (Benjamin was a dairyman at 71 Edmund st in 1862)
 
As far as I can see Maggie, Frances' parents weren't grocers. I believe this is her and her family in 61/71

1861 Aston>Duddeston>District 35> Page 13
I think the address is 2 back of 85 Cromwell Street
Joseph Betts, 41, married, Patent (Julie ??) Maker born Warwick
Jane Betts, 41, Married, born Middlesex, London
Jane Betts, 16, Leather Scabbard Closer, b Birmingham
Mary A Betts, 21, " " " " " "
Joseph Betts, 13, Cork-Screw Maker
Walter Betts, 11, Scholar
Alice Betts, 9, "
Frances C Betts, 6, "Scholar, born Birmingham

1871, Aston> Duddestone >D 40>pge 22 (not sure of the name of the building they are in though)
Joseph, 51, Brass Tube Worker, Warwick
Jane...51, born Middlesex
CLARA, 16, Steel toy Maker born Birmingham
John 9, Scholar, born Birmingham
Hope this helps
 
Thank you both Mike and Lindy - This is great info, especially with the details of the full households in 1861 and 1871 - Ive gone up another generation now!

Youre both wonderful! Thankyou.

Maggs
 
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