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Bayley Charles William

Keith R

Keith R

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Its free search weekend on Findmypast and a chance to nail down family members at a property on Cheapside......Charles William Bayley gives his address as 25 Court 8 House on army records...a marriage cert and a couple of birth certs around 1921 but do you think I can find any record for this phantom property. On later voting registers its not listed either.
Thanks
 
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This has occurred occasionally where two streets have been joined , thus giveral several courts of the same number. But this could not have happened here as cheapside has always, to my knowledge been one street. Therefore the one to the left of the map must be court 8
 
Thanks for that......I know they wrote the address in a funny way and cant decide if its Court 8 house No 25 or Court 25 House No 8....lol.
In all the written records I have seen I cant find either. The latest I am looking at is the 1921 Census (free) where you can see whose living there and it would have been a chance to actually see who Charles's family were as I cant find records for his Mom/Dad or siblings....in fact on different certs his father has different names......but I know that from his war discharge he was said to tend to be rather confused at times.
 
Keith R said:
Thanks for that......I know they wrote the address in a funny way and cant decide if its Court 8 house No 25 or Court 25 House No 8....lol.
In all the written records I have seen I cant find either. The latest I am looking at is the 1921 Census (free) where you can see whose living there and it would have been a chance to actually see who Charles's family were as I cant find records for his Mom/Dad or siblings....in fact on different certs his father has different names......but I know that from his war discharge he was said to tend to be rather confused at times.
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very unusual to have 25 houses in one court keith but a map of the court should tell us

lyn
 
Astoness said:
very unusual to have 25 houses in one court keith but a map of the court should tell us

lyn
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Map link in post #28
As Mike says court 8 must be te court on the left marked 9 as the map shows 2 court 9s.
Map also shows a court 25 but no the correct place see post 36 for link to map..
 
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" Looking for any info pics etc on 21 Cheapside Birmingham thanks in advance "........

On 1921 Census a Sarah Jane Smith live there alone...she was a Draper and from Walsall aged 55.
 
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pjmburns said:
Also found eroll for 1920 but no one named Bayley listed
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Thanks....this is one hell of a ghost family.......Charles has his mother as Gertrude on the Army papers but cannot tie this down to anyone and no Birth marriage or death listed for her. On various things the father has different names but on a Birth cert for Charles which says Gertude is Mother it says Dad is Charles Stephen who is also very hard to trace. NowI have 1921 free for a bit I could look at the address on the Birth Cert.
 

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Keith R said:
Thanks for that......I know they wrote the address in a funny way and cant decide if its Court 8 house No 25 or Court 25 House No 8....lol.
In all the written records I have seen I cant find either. The latest I am looking at is the 1921 Census (free) where you can see whose living there and it would have been a chance to actually see who Charles's family were as I cant find records for his Mom/Dad or siblings....in fact on different certs his father has different names......but I know that from his war discharge he was said to tend to be rather confused at times.
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just looked at his war records keith..see what you mean about the problems charles had...having said that we have his birth cert and so far i cant find his parents anywhere...mind you i have only looked quickly..will look again later

lyn
 
Suggestion based on the eroll I posted earlier.
At house 8 court 25 are Harry Dunhill and GERTRUDE Dunhill.
Going to check the 1920
Had Mr Bayley died and Gertrude married again?
 
Gertrude and Harry are there in 1920 as well.

There is a marriage in 1892 of Henry Dunhill and Gertrude BALDWIN. Reg at West Bromwich (that included parts of Birmingham).
So I am not sure what is going on.
 
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Gertrude and Harry are there in 1920 as well.

There is a marriage in 1892 of Henry Dunhill and Gertrude BALDWIN. Reg at West Bromwich (that included parts of Birmingham).
So I am not sure what is going on.
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not sure jan.. if gertrude marr after charles stephen bayley died how come he is down as father on the 1900 birth cert..very odd..will have to look again as a bit busy now...
 
i notice that the birth was registered 2 months after birth...could it be charles william was born somewhere else parents then moved to birmingham and registered him here ..i am struggling to make out the address on the birth cert..looks like willes road but i have never heard of it...back later

lyn
 
Thanks all the time you 2 put in on my behalf.
I have Charles everywhere after 1919 when he married Wife's GMother with loads of entries in voting AND with the help of the free weekend I found a Charles (W) Bayley in Newspaper article in 1969 when he complained about disturbance in Woodlands hospital and it had a picture of the man.....I have told Wife it's 99% her Gdad...let's hope I am correct.Will post pics when on PC....in few minutes.
Gertrude Baldwin was the lady I have penciled in as his Mother....and tried everything to trace marriages and deaths of her and the possible father of Charles.
I couldn't see the 1921 entry for that Court/House number on findmypast ?
 
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i notice that the birth was registered 2 months after birth...could it be charles william was born somewhere else parents then moved to birmingham and registered him here ..i am struggling to make out the address on the birth cert..looks like willes road but i have never heard of it...back later

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Willes Road is Winson Green area.
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Oh my......no idea how you found that under 8 court 25.....think I saw it under one of these addresses.
 

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OK...internet back on PC now lol...
this must be wifes Grandad as he lived at 20 Tower Road for 40 years.
 

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Before I post I am wondering if these posts about the family need a thread in surnames. So will hold fire to see what a mod says. Do you have another name thread somewhere Keith?
 
pjmburns said:
Before I post I am wondering if these posts about the family need a thread in surnames. So will hold fire to see what a mod says. Do you have another name thread somewhere Keith?
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yes good idea jan..sometime today when time permits all posts on this thread from post 27 will be moved to a new thread for charles william bayley...it will be under our surname interests of the forum

lyn
 
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