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Bacons End

postie

Gone but not forgotten. R.I.P.
In the long ago days of C.B. radio talk, the traffic island at the top of Cooks Lane, Kingshurst, used to be called " the pigs bum doughnut", meaning Bacons End Island, but where did Bacons End come from?.
It was first mentioned in a rental as "Baconesend" in 1447 !.
There was indeed a pub there known as "The Gammon of Bacon".
Sounds good to me.;)
 
When I went to see my cousins in Bussleton, Western Australia they announced one day that we were going to dancing Pig............ when we looked puzzled they laughed and said it was Rockingham but it was known as dancing pig.............. I wonder how many other places there are that you could change the name to a jokey one!
Jude
 
new title

The Shareholders Park Lane Aston could be the Investors
The Black Horse Park lane could be LloydsTSB
 
I live in Bacons End and a few years ago I gave my address in a store(for a delivery).

The man in the store had been born in Bacons End in the late 30s and said there was a Pig farm there which is how it got its name.I didn't argue as most people think the same but in my genealogy research I have seen
references of births in the 18th century in Bacons End.

The local authority does not recognise the area Bacons End and nowadays it is on very few maps.

On my little estate there is the Kingshurst Labour club and the Chelmsley Wood British Legion club but I like the name Bacons End,so THATS where I live.
 
The mention of Bacons End brought back memories of the mid sixties when I used to deliver newspapers there.
the pig farm was down the Chester Road, on your right - you took a short cut across the field (which was full of the pigs) to get to Chelmsley Wood. no estate there in those days
 
I remember being taken on a school outing to a farm. This is when I went to Lea Village Juniors. 1960-64. I always remember it was the top end of Cooks Lane roundabout where the Ambulance depot is now. I can remember it being all open farmland. We took it in turns to sit on a big horse.

Terry
 
Looking at a Balsall Heath local history society publication @anglo Saxon Place names in Birmingham & The Black Country' it says it was a family name, recorded 1447 as you said.
www.searchforancestors.com gives this derivation
Bacon, from the Anglo-Saxon bacan, to bake, to dry by heat. Some derive this surname from the Saxon baccen or buccen, a beech-tree. Upon the monument of Thomas Bacon, in Brome Church in Suffolk (England), there is a beechtree engraven in brass, with a man resting under it. It appears, also, that the first Lord-keeper, Sir Nicholas Bacon, with his two wives, are represented in a similar manner.

Bob
 
And just to illustrate the danger of using one source I looked at another site which comes up with something very different and does include the pig connection

www.surnamedb.com

This most interesting surname has two possible interpretations, both of Germanic origin. It may be a metonymic occupational name for someone who prepared and sold cured pork, a pork butcher, from the Old French, Middle English "bacun, bacon", bacon, ham (of Germanic origin). The name, according to another source may derive from the Germanic personal name "Bac(c)o", "Bahho", from the root "bag", to fight, which was common among the Normans in the form "Bacus", "Bacon". Hence, the name was probably introduced into England by the Normans after the Conquest of 1066. "Documents illustrative of the Social and Economic History of the Danelaw", records one Richard Bacun in Lincolnshire in 1150, while Nicholas Bachun was mentioned in Staffordshire in 1226, in the "Abstracts of the Contents of the Burton Chartulary". Interesting namebearers, recorded in the "Dictionary of National Biography", include Lady Ann Bacon (1528 - 1610), who was governess to Edward V1 and mother of Sir Francis Bacon (1561 - 1626), first Baron Verulam, the English philosopher, statesman and essayist, who described the inductive method of reasoning. The Coat of Arms most associated with the name Bacon is a red shield, on a silver chief, three black mullets (knight spurs) pierced. The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of William Bacun, which was dated circa 1150, in the "Chartulary of Staffordshire", during the reign of King Stephen, known as "The Count of Blois", 1135 - 1154. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling.

Back to square one!

Bob
 
After my posting in July 2007 I was informed by another forum member with extensive historical knowledge of the area that in the Middle ages
Simon and John Bacon established a settlement where Bacons End is today.
 
reference the surname Bacon, we used to give people with that surname the nickname of 'Rasher' (Royal Navy)
 
I live in Bacons End and a few years ago I gave my address in a store(for a delivery).

The man in the store had been born in Bacons End in the late 30s and said there was a Pig farm there which is how it got its name.I didn't argue as most people think the same but in my genealogy research I have seen
references of births in the 18th century in Bacons End.

The local authority does not recognise the area Bacons End and nowadays it is on very few maps.

On my little estate there is the Kingshurst Labour club and the Chelmsley Wood British Legion club but I like the name Bacons End,so THATS where I live.
Hello Alberta

My Wife came from Kingshurst, Laburnam Ave. Spent many happy years there.
 
Hi Nickcc101,

Used to live in Overgreen drive in the 60s,that too was a happy time for me. Alberta
 
If there was a town (settlement) called Bacon and a road ran through it; would not the end part be the place on the road where responsibility of the town for the upkeep of the highway came to an end.
 
Hi

Yes Bacons End my ears still ring out to the tune of it.
We lived off the Water Orton road and the two Midland Red Buses
we used were the 161 and 171. Outside the Odeon in those day's.
1946 to 1953.
Often we would have to catch the 168. This terminated
at Bacons End. I can still here the Conductor calling out
this name Bacons End. We would have to get off opposite
the Castle Cinama and walk home via Marlbourough Road
and Green Lane.

Mike Jenks
 
It does go back to the Middle Ages (1447 as pointed out) and the Bacons were landed Lords in the Manor of Coleshill. The Dugdale Society records of Coleshill book, published in 2019 has these records. The area which we know as Bacons End, was the south westerly limit of their land owning. It formed a boundary to the Chester Rd.
 
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