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Allcock Street, Deritend
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Hello Marjorie, On thinking about it, I must have lived up the entry opposite you. Did you know the Smiths as Mrs Smith was kind to me? If you did live opposite me then would you have known Pat Reynolds who lived in the house at the front (54?) and does Charlie who used to sell seafood at the Wagonners mean something to you? Up our entry there was us to the left hand house and Mrs Clarke lived to the house on the right. We had an air raid shelter in the yard opposite the toilets. Ransfords would have been the shop at the top near Liverpool Street? Dad moved us to London, we were to move to Castle Bromwich I think, into a new house, but dad had got a job in Hackney so we moved there. Mum never liked London and always regretted the move. I would really like to know what you remember of things because although we had nothing, Allcock Street has a special place in my memory. The gasworks (the coke yard) in Adderley Street may not have been so good for me as it left me with asthma. I go back periodically and where I think you may have lived is a tool shop. Am I right? Thanks Chris
hi chris i dont know if im right but did your dad drive a bright yellow pickup truck or is that some one els ? i remember pat ravenscrofft who lived at the front one the left had side mary boil jimmy boil irean parks johnny gibb and of cause the warralls im marjorie smith and you are right a bout our house it is a tool hire shop i have been down there myself a couple of years ago.if you look at the pictures of allcock st i think the one is ours becaus in the earley 1900s our hous was a shop because there are adverts on the wall and i have looked up the recard in the libary in town if you go to the libary on the 6 floor there are all sorts of pictures you can look at all very intresting but i havent come across any on your side of the road by the way i cant remember any one named charlie who sold fish my dad was called charley but i remember quinney who came round selling perry wincles best wishes marjorie
Dear Marjorie,
I am so pleased that you replied. I have really good memories of your family. Your mum was a lovely woman to me. When I played with you all, she treated me as one of the family. Dished me up a bread and dripping - lovely!
I really liked Pat Ravenscroft who was a good mate to me. Her mum played a piano - do you remember?
Yes, my dad drove a yellow pick-up truck - he worked for Dowding and Mills, Camp Hill.
My mum and Charlie Reynolds were friends. He cut his arm but would not go to the doctors. It turned really bad on him. As I remember, he may have been Pat`s grandad. As I recall, he wore one of those shirts without a collar and had a big thick black belt to hold up his trousers.
Do you remember Tony the Italian ice cream man? He taught us naughty rhymes and they have stuck with me as follows:
Ladies and gentleman take my advice
Lift up your left leg and f*rt twice.
Ladies and gents while in the hall,
Wipe your a*se on paper not on the wall!
He would probably get locked up today, I suspect , but he was harmless enough.
I have posted a photo of my dad and his truck on Dowding & Mills thread.
Once again thanks for replying.
Sincerely
Chris
I am so pleased that you replied. I have really good memories of your family. Your mum was a lovely woman to me. When I played with you all, she treated me as one of the family. Dished me up a bread and dripping - lovely!
I really liked Pat Ravenscroft who was a good mate to me. Her mum played a piano - do you remember?
Yes, my dad drove a yellow pick-up truck - he worked for Dowding and Mills, Camp Hill.
My mum and Charlie Reynolds were friends. He cut his arm but would not go to the doctors. It turned really bad on him. As I remember, he may have been Pat`s grandad. As I recall, he wore one of those shirts without a collar and had a big thick black belt to hold up his trousers.
Do you remember Tony the Italian ice cream man? He taught us naughty rhymes and they have stuck with me as follows:
Ladies and gentleman take my advice
Lift up your left leg and f*rt twice.
Ladies and gents while in the hall,
Wipe your a*se on paper not on the wall!
He would probably get locked up today, I suspect , but he was harmless enough.
I have posted a photo of my dad and his truck on Dowding & Mills thread.
Once again thanks for replying.
Sincerely
Chris
like to see picture of your dad and the truck were do i find also why not post one ofyour self . i remember getting on the back and your dad would take us to school sometimes to ada rd are dowding &mills still there my dad use to work at fishers in clide street but that has gon now
best wishes marjorie
best wishes marjorie
winterbrun
Brummie babby
Hello,
Harry Hayward of The Great Western , was my great uncle and I visited the pub as a child in the early 1960s. I have pictures of the pub and some of the regulars from 1948 and 1958.
John
Harry Hayward of The Great Western , was my great uncle and I visited the pub as a child in the early 1960s. I have pictures of the pub and some of the regulars from 1948 and 1958.
John
Dear John,
Those pictures could be really promising. Marjorie`s mum worked in the Western and I am sure that she would be very interested too. Marjorie lived in the house next door and the Western was just across the road to me, when I came out of our entry.
Thank you for taking an interest.
Chris.
Those pictures could be really promising. Marjorie`s mum worked in the Western and I am sure that she would be very interested too. Marjorie lived in the house next door and the Western was just across the road to me, when I came out of our entry.
Thank you for taking an interest.
Chris.
winterbrun
Brummie babby
This photo shows my great uncle, Harry Hayward and his son, also Harry but known as 'Young Harry' by the family. Outside The Great Western, Deritend in about 1938.
winterbrun
Brummie babby
Some more images from insideThe Great Western taken in 1948 
winterbrun
Brummie babby
The 80th Birthday party for Harry Hayward, publican of The Great Western, 1962. (c) JR Such.
Harry is on the righthand side and I would be grateful if anyone could name the other two people in this photo.
Harry is on the righthand side and I would be grateful if anyone could name the other two people in this photo.
hello john and welcome...what a wonderful collection of photos you have of your gt uncle and of the great western pub i love the one taken on his birthday with the cake saying to the govenor also the inside shots of the customers playing cards dominos and darts...all pastimes of the past im afraid..you are so lucky to have them...i am taking it that the pub is no longer there but will check..
lyn
lyn
Hi Lyn and John,
It is great that these photo`s are now in the public domain and recorded for posterity - snap shot in time of life of life as it was in Brum, much of the entertainment focussed around the pub. The pub is no longer there: it is a tool-hire shop.
Chris
It is great that these photo`s are now in the public domain and recorded for posterity - snap shot in time of life of life as it was in Brum, much of the entertainment focussed around the pub. The pub is no longer there: it is a tool-hire shop.
Chris
Hi, Eric Reynolds is my name and my mum and dad Nellie and Charles lived in 1 back, 54 Allcock St, Pats mother was my sister Iris. My dad use to sell mussels and seafood on a horse and cart. I am trying to get pictures of 54 Allcock street have you any or do you know where I can get them. I have settled in Australia, married 3 daughters and 9 grandchildren. Hope to hear from you soon. Eric.
Hello Eric,
We too lived at 1/54 from 1946 to 1953. . We must know each other. Pat was my mate. Mum was a friend of Charlie. I remember him.
Please get back.
Great to hear from you.
Chris.
Dear Eric,
It is such a coincidence you living in a house that I did and now it is demolished with no trace of it remaining. If you check it out on Google maps, there is a factory built there now and the pub over the road is a tool hire shop. You will remember of course that the stairs were very steep and I fell down them and it knocked the wind out of me. I slept in the little room (there were only two) to the right at the top of the stairs. Was all your cooking done on the range in the ground floor left hand room or had you a gas stove in the right hand scullery where there was also a cold tap and a sink. I was always told to keep away from the drain outside. Apart from scaring me to death (it looked as if it went down to the bowels of the earth) my mother always had a fear that we would catch diptheria. Did your dad Charlie use the wash house to cook up the mussels and did he not sell them at the Waggon and Horses in Adderley Street? The house had gas lighting and when the mantle broke, I was sent up the road to the shop, corner of Liverpool Street (still a bus garage) to buy a gas mantle for the lights for a penny as I remember. Does Pat remember us? I would be pleased to hear as much as you can remember about living in the house.
Chris
It is such a coincidence you living in a house that I did and now it is demolished with no trace of it remaining. If you check it out on Google maps, there is a factory built there now and the pub over the road is a tool hire shop. You will remember of course that the stairs were very steep and I fell down them and it knocked the wind out of me. I slept in the little room (there were only two) to the right at the top of the stairs. Was all your cooking done on the range in the ground floor left hand room or had you a gas stove in the right hand scullery where there was also a cold tap and a sink. I was always told to keep away from the drain outside. Apart from scaring me to death (it looked as if it went down to the bowels of the earth) my mother always had a fear that we would catch diptheria. Did your dad Charlie use the wash house to cook up the mussels and did he not sell them at the Waggon and Horses in Adderley Street? The house had gas lighting and when the mantle broke, I was sent up the road to the shop, corner of Liverpool Street (still a bus garage) to buy a gas mantle for the lights for a penny as I remember. Does Pat remember us? I would be pleased to hear as much as you can remember about living in the house.
Chris