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cant beleive it phil. up until last sat i had a clock with a pic of all the pubs that were on summer lane on the face of it. (the vine inn being one) i gave it to some friends who lived in lennox st and had come down from essex to see me. i have ordered my self another clock now. will keep trying to find out if it is the one from summer lane. pity we cant see what the street sign says on the left of the picture. cant make it out even with me mag glass.
 
hi folks. came accross this pic of the vine carver st/tenby st 1935. think we can illiminate this from our enquiries. wales.
 
I.,m Afraid You Was Wrong On That One Ash, My Friend,
I Was Born More Or Less Across The Road From That New Inns Virtualy Facing It ,
It Did Have A Name But At This Precise Time
 
I think that 'The Vine' that Wales is looking for, was at 71 Villa St and in 1881 the Landlord was named Harris. Not sure if that helps or not, but it does place where in Villa St it was.

Pom
 
hi pom. just a small correction. the vine inn villa st street was at num 126 i lived at 118 more or less oppostite. im not giving up finding a pic of it. wales
 
hi bob.phil and all. just borrowed my brothers summer lane pub clock and i can confirm that bobs pic of the vine is not the one that was in summers lane. its a lot smaller and its not by a corner which explains why it was the only one with the official summer lane address. also it was just the vine not the vine inn. just thought i would let you all know. more research needed i think. hope we get to the bottom of it. wales.
 
been researching and i think the vine was owned by holts brewery. just thought i would put this bit of info on. if im correct bobs pic was pre 1934 wales.
 
Good detective work Wales! You'll notice that when Ansells took them over in 1934 they took over the Holt's squirrel emblem which most of us will remember from Ansells pubs. Over the years ground floor windows get broken or replaced during modernisation but a rare survivor is The Vine in Ladywood - pic attached.

I suppose that even after takeover the painted Holts adverts on my picture would survive for a short while, perhaps even up to the war but looking at the clothing etc I would think this was more likely around ww1 time. Hence my previous comment about your age Wales ;).

The annoying thing apart from the fact that I didn't label it is that I obviously took it from some published source but have no idea where. My only other thought (and I can hear the groans already!) is could it have perhaps been in the Black Country? I don't know how far Holts went out of Brum but I remember that in the 1990s Allied Breweries repromoted the Holts brand in several Black Country pubs.

Thanks everyone for your efforts, I have no doubt somebody will come up trumps soon

Bob
 
I would still consider 'the Vine' on the no. 8 bus route in Small Heath as a possibilty. The shops just up from there are very similar to those in the photo.

Ann
 
Hi Wales,
Re: the mystery Vine. Aston Remembered lists a Vine Inn at 64 Alma Street. I cant place it. Do you have a picture? Does anybody have a picture? Also been meaning to ask - there was a pub on cnr of New John St/Aston Road. Does anyone know its name? I must have passed it so many times - just cant think of it!
 
Dave Bath said:
Hi Wales,
Re: the mystery Vine. Aston Remembered lists a Vine Inn at 64 Alma Street. I cant place it. Do you have a picture? Does anybody have a picture? Also been meaning to ask - there was a pub on cnr of New John St/Aston Road. Does anyone know its name? I must have passed it so many times - just cant think of it!
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The pub on the corner of New John St and Aston Rd was the New Inn.

Phil
 
has any one got photos of the star public house in gooch street i think it was in balsall heath area
 
Ann B said:
I would still consider 'the Vine' on the no. 8 bus route in Small Heath as a possibilty. The shops just up from there are very similar to those in the photo.

Ann
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Ann

The Vine Green Lane, Small Heath.

Phil

SmallHeathVineGreenLane.jpg
 
Thanks Phil,
Obviously not that one then. And from the look of it another one bites the dust.
Last week, a distant relative (ex Brummie), who was coming up from Torquay, asked 'Well give me the name of a good local pub where we could meet up'. I thought I was on Mastermind, that's how difficult it was.

Ann
 
Ann, great comment. I was asked the same thing not long ago and struggled. Worth a new thread I feel which I'll start. Perhaps you'd care to kick off by contributing your answer you gave to your friends

Bob
 
now now bob. yer as old as you feel. and right now i feel like a 21 yer old. ha ha. anyway now we have eliminated anns suggestion where to now. could be black country way. what about if i put on site a kellys look up pre 1934. all the pubs are listed in them. we need all the vine inns. think dave said there was a vine in alma st. borrowed me 56 kellys out but from memory i think he is right. but im sure ive seen a pic of that somewhere and it was only a small pub. wales.
 
Ann B, When asked for a good local pub to meet in, although i live in Sheldon my reply is, The Lad in the Lane, Erdington. ( aka The Green Man).
 
Wales I'm humbled by the efforts people are making on this. It's a good challenge isn't it. I wouldn't mind betting its a pub that's been rebuilt so still can't rule out the Brum ones on that assumption.
By the way I often feel like a 21 year old but unfortunately they're not interested in me ;)

Bob
 
i know what you mean bob. i was going to ask all you lad not to go fighting over me ha ha. i agree it prob went years ago thats why ive posted a kellys request pre 1934. postie has just sent this one. although it rules it out also. nice pic though. wales.
 
Len,

Thanks for the suggestion of 'The Lad in the Lane'. We'll give it a try..any excuse. We're also in Sheldon, so I'm not surprised you opted for one out of the area. I can't think of a good local one, not anymore.

Ann
 
Wales,

I'm clicking on the photo you put on of the Vine Green Lane, but it won't enlarge. It would be nice to see that one.

Ann
 
You could try these going back to 1903.

Vine Inn Cross St Smethwick
Vine Inn Albert St West Smethwick

Going back a little further 1846

Vine Monument Lane
Vine Great Colmore Street.

I'm still looking.

Phil
 
Ann B said:
Len,

Thanks for the suggestion of 'The Lad in the Lane'. We'll give it a try..any excuse. We're also in Sheldon, so I'm not surprised you opted for one out of the area. I can't think of a good local one, not anymore.

Ann
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Ann B, I presume you have seen the ALDI shed rising from the ash`s of The Waggon & Horses, as a pre WW2 kid i had the pleasure of pop & crisps with Mom & Dad in the 1937 pub, and in later life post WW2 a steak meal in The Berni Inn, Waggon & Horses.
 
Sorry Phil .
But The Widdows Was Never On The Corner Of Lichfield Rd ,
I Tried A Couple Of Times Yester day To Put The Excact PostionOn The Thread But It Appears To Being BAQlockedAND nOT pUT My Reply On Site , For What Or Reason I Do NOT kNOW,
ASTONIAN ,;
 
Len,

I cursed the rising structure when I passed yesterday. I was post W.W.2, so I don't recall the first Wagon, but we had many a happy night there when it was a Berni.
My sitting outside with pop and crisps was done at The Bernards Grange.

Ann
 
Re the vine -Black country?

To help eliminate, here are a few from the net that I think are not the vine pictured earlier . Kinver (well not quite black country) is also out else the building on the left would be hovering over the canal

Mike


the_delph2C_brierley_hill.jpg


West_Bromwich__123_Dartmouth_Street.jpg


wednesfield2C35_lichfield_rd.jpg


old_vine2Cstafford_rd2C_wolves.jpg



152_roebuck_st_westbrom.jpg
 
Bob,

All this just because you couldn't manage a simple bit of labelling!

I have a folder 'Backgound pics' that I use to download photos I am 'borrowing' from the net. I bet I don't know what half those are.

Ann
 
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