2 Back 22, Villiers Street, Ladywood

[ablockley]

Hi
My 2xG Grandmother was resident at the time of her death, in 1910, at the above address.
Despite viewing old OS maps, I'm not able to locate the address.

Have I missed something or is/was Villiers Street not in Ladywood but a nearby district?
Also, why the unusual numbering (i.e. 2 Back 22)?

Any help would br greatly appreciated.

Cheers
Andrew

 

[pjmburns]

Hi
My 2xG Grandmother was resident at the time of her death, in 1910, at the above address.
Despite viewing old OS maps, I'm not able to locate the address.

Have I missed something or is/was Villiers Street not in Ladywood but a nearby district?
Also, why the unusual numbering (i.e. 2 Back 22)?

Any help would br greatly appreciated.

Cheers
Andrew

2 back of 22 is not unusual. It simply means that behind house number 22 was a court containing more houses. These were numbered 1, 2, 3, etc

 

[RobT]

Probably in Winson Green
Anyone know how its numbered?

 

[ablockley]

2 back of 22 is not unusual. It simply means that behind house number 22 was a court containing more houses. These were numbered 1, 2, 3, etc

Thanks. That’s interesting and something I’ve not come across before.

 

[ablockley]

Probably in Winson Green
Anyone know how its numbered?

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Thanks, I think that's probably the answer. Her son, who reported the death, lived at 82 Wellington Road which I'm assuming is at the end of Villiers Street on the map. Until her husbands death she had been living in Shropshire so I had assumed she moved to be close to him, so that all fits. Again, many thanks.

 

[pjmburns]

Thanks. That’s interesting and something I’ve not come across before.

My husband, in 1953, was born in Birmingham in a house numbered 1 back of 50. In this case there was an entry between 50 and 54 which led to a court with I think, 5 houses.
Pulled down in the early 60s and under Dartmouth Circus.

 

[MWS]

This is from 1950, pink dot marks 2 back 22...

 

[maypolebaz]

2 back of 22 is not unusual. It simply means that behind house number 22 was a court containing more houses. These were numbered 1, 2, 3, etc

True, my Gran lived in 2/19 Norman St. (I was teriffied, going down that entry !)

 

[DaveHaw]

Villiers Terrace, which was off Villiers Street was where my mother was born in 1933. And it is in Winson Green. Opposite the entrance to Winson Green prison I think (no connection, I promise).
I grew up living at 2 back 35 Auckland Road, Sparkbrook in the 50's until 1963 when we moved. We were never afraid to walk up the entry though although we mostly ran every where
Dave H

 

[A Hud]

Hi
My 2xG Grandmother was resident at the time of her death, in 1910, at the above address.
Despite viewing old OS maps, I'm not able to locate the address.

Have I missed something or is/was Villiers Street not in Ladywood but a nearby district?
Also, why the unusual numbering (i.e. 2 Back 22)?

Any help would br greatly appreciated.

Cheers
Andrew

My mother lived in 3/20 Villiers Street as a child in the late 1930s and my Great Grandmother was living at 32 Villiers Street at the time of the 1910 census. Perhaps our ancestors knew each other. My mother talked about delivering groceries to the prison (from her aunts shop) which she believed was a castle as a child, to be fair it did look like one. She also remembered attending Sunday school at the top of the road and the girls and boys brigade parading down the street. She said a group of men would gather at the top of the road each night, I think there was some kind of mission house there. She attended primary school on Foundry road and one day when she was walking to school with her friend a man was shot outside the prison trying to escape a guard, a shocking sight for two small girls.

 

[dawnaur]

Hi
My 2xG Grandmother was resident at the time of her death, in 1910, at the above address.
Despite viewing old OS maps, I'm not able to locate the address.

Have I missed something or is/was Villiers Street not in Ladywood but a nearby district?
Also, why the unusual numbering (i.e. 2 Back 22)?

Any help would br greatly appreciated.

Cheers
Andrew

Villier St was (is) in Winson Green, virtually opposite the prison and near Wellington St. Winson Green comes under Ladywood ward on official records, etc. Spent 18 years of my life in Winson Green. Did not think they were back to backs but might have been in 1910!

 

[mikejee]

It can be seen from this 1954 map, that there was a mission hall just round the corner in Winson Green Road