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The mystery deepens

No Les didn't enlist

Thank You, his daughter is still alive and she has tried but any information may help solve the puzzle.

Can't believe they're knocking it down, I lived in the Bagot in the early 90's

Never liked them but they are slowly growing on me, ahead of there time unfortunatley

Hi Melly, I sued to drink in the Bagot for a few years in the early nineties and yes some faces look familiar although i cant put names to faces.

Well said, i live in Australia now and everytime i come back i notice it more and more.

Hi Lyn, been off line for a while. Nobody knows if she was married before Les White, she was a bit of a character and and none of her children ever asked questions hence the mystery. The strory from my mom is that Della told her she married a gypsy and that's it unfortunately Ian.

Della would have married Ron and Fred's father before 1932 if she married him at all

Thanks I'll get the info, she was married to Les White in 39 as my father would have been 5 years old

Thanks to you all for your efforts, Ron took the surname James as he was raised by his grand parents. Fred took the surname Smith and we assume this is his father's surname. Nothing on either birth certificate, my Gran was a character and may not have been married. Unfortunately all of her...

Hi Lyn, yes I know all about her family I have traced mine back to the 1400's on both sides. No information at all about her first Husband/partner and father to Ron and Fred. Nobody in the family knows anything

My Grandmother Adelaide James was born around the Handsworth area in 1908, had four sons the first two Fred and Ron to an unknown man. Seeking Information if Any, she married Les White and had two more sons Les and Dennis, lived in Hockley until moving to Aston and eventually to Bendall Rd...