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  1. Myrddin

    Villa Cross

    Here's the Jack Hughes Sunday Mercury article, 9 Mar 1924.
  2. Myrddin

    Dates of the first tramways up to Villa Cross from Heathfield Road, Villa Road, Lozells Road and Barker Street.

    Thanks Ray. The single tramway up Villa Road and over to its terminus in Lozells Road. It opened 23 Nov 1874. The tramway opened up in Lozells Road October 1885. I therefore assume the tramway divided into two at Villa Cross in 1885 (as shown on an 1888 map) What do you think? (Question relevant...
  3. Myrddin

    Villa Cross

    https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0003146/18800410/010/0002 Well, well! These clips 10 April 1880. And Mr Graham is already under scrutiny for his night soil dealings and for the red granite scandal. It appears that neither Mr Graham nor the board took it too seriously. Mr...
  4. Myrddin

    Villa Cross

    Oh I see. Sorry about that. It's really hard to tell, isn't it? There's been so many changes there that I couldn't say for sure. But, of course, if there are any earlier photos that can be found, it would be tremendous.
  5. Myrddin

    Villa Cross

    Firstly, thank you all for contributing. Much appreciated. Hi, Richard McNeill. That's great again. Very detailed information that covers the time span we're looking at. The problem with the directory entries, as far as the cabman's rest in concerned, is that it is not explicitly mentioned...
  6. Myrddin

    Villa Cross

    Thanks Vivienne14. Every bit of evidence can be a part of the jigsaw. Although I did pay too much attention to the detailed plans for tramways as given by the tram company. The company may have wished to build them in Barker Street and Heathfield Road but the local boards said, no! I have...
  7. Myrddin

    Villa Cross

    Richard McNeill. Thanks. That's great. Narrows the earliest limit of the date range to 1876. Post #65 has a tram advert stating the Lozells line will open 1st October 1885 and trams will run every fifteen minutes. This new line is shown on an 1888 ordinance survey map with double tramways at...
  8. Myrddin

    Villa Cross

    https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000033/18631015/017/0005 Well this is an interesting letter. In 1863 there was a "fine line of lights" lit down Heathfield Road, while Hunters Lane had lights that were not lit because the residents would not pay the going rate. Hmmm. So lamp...
  9. Myrddin

    Villa Cross

    "However the original tram route through West Bromwich did not pay its way, and the service from Carters Green to Dudley Port ceased in December 1873, and to Hill Top in September 1875, but a new branch, closer to Birmingham, opened on 23 November 1874, off Soho Hill at Villa Road and going...
  10. Myrddin

    Villa Cross

    Birmingham & Aston Chronicle | Saturday 01 April 1882 This shows that Mr W Graham had both shop fronts paved in granite - at the tax payers expense (expensive red granite that contrasted with the other pavement and, as we can see from the ENTIRE photo, added an air of class to the front of his...
  11. Myrddin

    Villa Cross

    Thanks for correcting me there, Enel. Of course, I meant simply, macadam. I'll change it.
  12. Myrddin

    Villa Cross

    Birmingham & Aston Chronicle | Saturday 08 November 1879 It seems Mr Graham had a thing about granite. Perhaps, he just couldn't stand the macadam cutting up.
  13. Myrddin

    Villa Cross

    Birmingham & Aston Chronicle | Saturday 12 August 1882 This clip shows a letter which complains about W Graham having paved a portion of the footpath opposite [in front of] his premises with expensive red granite (at the tax payers' expense). On the ENTIRE photo, I suggest, this paving shows up...
  14. Myrddin

    Villa Cross

    Since I asked, I found out that the same question had been asked elsewhere and Mikejee gave the same answer as you. All good.
  15. Myrddin

    Villa Cross

    Villa Road Handsworth | Page 3 | Birmingham History Forum The lamp posts on Villa Road 1904 here are not of the same design as one is at Villa Cross on the ENTIRE photo c1874-1885. Were these the originals or have they been upgraded?
  16. Myrddin

    Villa Road Handsworth

    Little Hunters lane. I suspected that it might be, Thanks for doing the research. One of AVFC's four founders lived in Little Hunters Lane and I could never find it anywhere.
  17. Myrddin

    Dates of the first tramways up to Villa Cross from Heathfield Road, Villa Road, Lozells Road and Barker Street.

    Yes, I've got that one, too. It could be the key to my holy grail. You might be interested in following the thread about that photo. If so click on the first link. The second link takes you a little further on in the quest and has a letter complaining about people using that patch of ground as...
  18. Myrddin

    Dates of the first tramways up to Villa Cross from Heathfield Road, Villa Road, Lozells Road and Barker Street.

    Yes, it was a small stadium in Wellington Road in Perry Barr. This link, Stadium - Wellington Road Ground, Perry Barr (englandfootballonline.com) is interesting because a lot of people do not realise that the England team played a match there. The maps given on the site are very small, so ...
  19. Myrddin

    Dates of the first tramways up to Villa Cross from Heathfield Road, Villa Road, Lozells Road and Barker Street.

    It looks to me as if the cabmen's tea room had a chimney pipe in these photos and that it had been moved from off the road (B&W) away from the tramway, and propped up on bricks by the entrance to the hotel (Sepia). There is a cabmen's tea room on the ENTIRE photo too but it doesn't have a...
  20. Myrddin

    Villa Cross

    Just to say on this Villa Cross thread that as a result of the tram thread .. https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/dates-of-the-first-tramways-up-to-villa-cross-from-heathfield-road-villa-road-lozells-road-and-barker-street.52825/#post-712430 .. I think we can date the ENTIRE...
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