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Very interesting, thank you. Wife laughed and had no idea. I'm thinking her cousin who has researched Kerrs/Hemmings. So Kerr and Hemming on her side, grandparents. Since my wife's mom passed away, over 3 yrs ago. As usual you lose touch. Shed researched trying to go further back than Vincent...

Not sure?

That was from my wifes cousin. Kerr and Hemming

Looks like Henry. Think you have seen those.

Hi the school past the now gone Punch Bowl would have been Fordbridge. There eas slso a RC School, Gilson way I think. St Anthony's. I lived in Meriden Drive.

Hi Mark, my wifes cousin has been researching for years. The Kerr family Tree. Dead end at my wifes Kerr side. Back to my wifes gt grandfather again Vincent Kerr. Either Henry or Harry Kerr. Interesting to see what youve come up with. Finished with Johnson research. Thank you for all your help...

Yep I know. Keep getting same info. Not giving up yet...Must be a local history society for Woodhouse. No wonder they were all joiners lol. Thnx

Understand Pam. Thanks for all your hard work. 1830 certificate probably not doable? Good night and thank you,

Yep, been studying different sites. So you don't think marriage in 1830 is not correct Pam.

I still think you were correct. William Johnson was a joiner. Censuses after 1851 Thomas Joseph and Thomas were both carpenters. I still get mixed up with Thomas Joseph and Thomas. 1851 has Thomas, Woodhouse, Mary aged 42 ABT born 1809 ish Woodhouse.

Yes I have father and son as carpenter and joiner Mark.

Thanks To both of you. More knowledge. Thanks again for your advice.Keith

Hi Pam, thanks for your help. Would I get anymore information i.e. Banns giving name of parents? Thank you, Keitj.

Sorry Pam, read it again. Your right Thomas Joseph Johnson s birth fits in with 1840. Found gro, apologies your right. Keith. His father Thomas married 1830. My brains working again.

Hi Pam, just looked again. States Mary Ann Hinmam. Marriage 27th September 1830. On the gro ref says 1840?. I know Thomas Joseph Johnson is Thomas's father. Only just read it again? Thank you, Keith.

Yes Pam, that's what threw me. Then I looked at censuses. Plus ancestry, So now got 3 proofs of marriage. If I'm brave, Irish ancestry.. Thank you, and it's warmer today.

Amazing Pam, thank you very much. I finally had Thomas Joseph. Just threw me off being born in Leicestershire. Then his son being in Aston. You saved alot of research with Frederick being the son of. What I know now with m/c Frederick R. Never would have got back so far on both sides. Thanks to...

Thank you so much Lyn. I couldnt find it. Just doing a bit at a time. Much appreciated, Keith.

Thanks Mark, thats what manage to find but wasn't certain. Yes father and son both carpenter. Proven, thank you, Keith.