Mickymoo
master brummie
No,it's never been built on,it's a car park these days...
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The Crown Hotel The General Elliott "Cutlers" Station Street.
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There were stables behind the Crown, in fact I believe the building(s) still exist behind the Crown. I think part of the stables was the later pub toilet facilities, The pillars must have been where access was gained to the stables.
I've had a look at the 1887 map and it shows the first pillar at the gateway to be the fullest extent of the main building. So there was no building above the gateway in the 1880s.
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Mickymoo
master brummie
Google aerial photo here,showing the stable buildings are still there..
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A Sparks
master brummie
I'd like a look in there!
I wonder if the old building is still used for anything - storage maybe?
BrummieGeoff
Sparkhill Lad
The edge of the General Elliott Hotel building appears on the right of this photo of Station Street .... although the sign only shows the words "General Hotel".
Seems to have used the name 'General Hotel' in 1891 and 1892.
A Sparks
master brummie
I wonder!
On the map you posted of Station Street in 1887 (post #92) I see there is another hotel further along on the corner with Dudley Street, what would that one have been?
BrummieGeoff
Sparkhill Lad
I think Jordan's Station Hotel was on the corner of Dudley Street .... and was renamed the Market Hotel.
1890 Kelly's lists it with both names .... occupied by Henry Edwin Jordan.
1890 Kelly's lists it with both names .... occupied by Henry Edwin Jordan.
Thanks both. That'll be the one ! Interesting that both hotels were advertising themselves as 'Commercial' hotels. So were they intended to attract gentlemen who were commecial travellers ? Both were ideally placed to capture the station business.
Have started a separate thread for H W Jordan here https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/threads/h-e-jordan.59229/#post-854831
Have started a separate thread for H W Jordan here https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/threads/h-e-jordan.59229/#post-854831
BrummieGeoff
Sparkhill Lad
The Station Hotel (aka Market Hotel) and the Basket Wholesaler/Manufacturer were adjacent in Station Street, and both listed in 1890 Kelly's to Henry E Jordan.
Now that's a very interesting map Geoff. I assume it's from Goads 1887 insurance maps. It shows a Shaftesbury Hotel on Station Street alongside the Crown Public House. It was a temperance hotel with coffee house and dining rooms in 1893 and was the scene of a murder in 1918. The building that exists today on the site is Shaftesbury House.
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The Crown in Birmingham is known as the venue where Black Sabbath performed their first gig
As a footnote, I was curious to find out who 'General Elliott' was and if he had any link to Birmingham. I'd say the name refers to General George Augustus Eliott (25 December 1717 – 6 July 1790)
He commanded the garrison during the Great Siege of Gibraltar, which lasted from 1779 to 1783, during the American War of Independence. He was celebrated for his successful defence of the fortress and decisive defeat of Spanish and French attackers.
If that's the case, then his name should be spelled Eliott.
(There are quite a few pubs named after him throughout the country, variously spelled.)
