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Unfortunately, this is just a costing exercise with a grant that is usually awarded by the architectural heritage fund, a branch of Historic England. In my experiences these grants are what they say, for funding architects. I applied for one for about £2.5k match funded once. It was not a big amount, but I ended up attending thirteen meeting and submitting countless reports. In the end I was going to tell them to keep the grant.

The heritage industry is swimming with consults who are basically grant farming. I think if you do the numbers you would find that for every £100 spent on heritage about £1 gets spent on actual building work.

I did speak to a councillor about this a few years ago and suggested that they engage with a local technical college as this type of work is ideal for building industry apprentices. Again, they suggested I write a proposal, to which I declined to do as it was just going to be another layer of bureaucracy that did not get anything done to the building. Don’t hold your breath folks.
 
Morturn said:
Unfortunately, this is just a costing exercise with a grant that is usually awarded by the architectural heritage fund, a branch of Historic England. In my experiences these grants are what they say, for funding architects. I applied for one for about £2.5k match funded once. It was not a big amount, but I ended up attending thirteen meeting and submitting countless reports. In the end I was going to tell them to keep the grant.

The heritage industry is swimming with consults who are basically grant farming. I think if you do the numbers you would find that for every £100 spent on heritage about £1 gets spent on actual building work.

I did speak to a councillor about this a few years ago and suggested that they engage with a local technical college as this type of work is ideal for building industry apprentices. Again, they suggested I write a proposal, to which I declined to do as it was just going to be another layer of bureaucracy that did not get anything done to the building. Don’t hold your breath folks.
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agree with you mort...i just cant see the pub being saved now...which for its age is just tragic

lyn
 
In view of the council's bankruptcy and outstanding 'equality' wage debts, I can't see and funding being available for this (or, to be honest, and other non-essential) project. It would be mis-spending of public funds. The building can only be saved by offering it to a society or museum (Avoncroft or the like) to restore, even if it means moving it away. Leaving the status quo will only result in its eventual collapse and then being cleared away. Every day it deteriorates a little more.
 
I agree Morturn. Personally I think a large proportion of "consultants", whatever the field, though particularly those in HR, social work and business organisation, are pretty useless parasites.
 
far as i know janet it was always the golden lion....shame it was not left where it was as it could have stood a chance ..there should be old photos of it on the forum before it was removed

lyn
 
I didn't even know in all the visits I made to the park in my youth there was a pub there , I remember the pool we used to paddle, from what I remember at times it was rather difficult to pick your steps as the floor was coverd in rocks etc . I picked up an old welly on one visit in the river and I heard like a rat a tat from inside the boot , turned out it was a crayfish when I poured the water out of the boot . I was at a loss what was this alien in front of me at the age of about 8 or 9yo it was my first experience of seeing a crayfish .
 
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Does anyone know what pub it was in Deritend prior to 1911? would be interesting to find out
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It has its own thread

Golden Lion Cannon Hill

The Golden Lion Inn is a Grade II listed building built around 1520 and is described thus, “The timber frame of the two-storey inn is filled with plaster and the ground floor is faced with brick. The main facade features three gables above herring-bone studding, a painted pub sign (1725)...
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far as i know janet it was always the golden lion....shame it was not left where it was as it could have stood a chance ..there should be old photos of it on the forum before it was removed

lyn
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Think you are right Lyn just found this picture:
 

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A free Zoom talk that will probably be of interest to a number of those on the forum. book place at

Louisa Ryland and Cannon Hill Park, Birmingham​

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Louisa Ryland (1814-1889) was one of Birmingham's major 19th century benefactors. During her lifetime she donated millions to the city; she paid for hospitals, churches & schools and provided half of the funds to build the magnificent Birmingham School of Art. She also donated the land for Birmingham's premier park, Cannon Hill, and Small Heath Park. She paid for the laying out, digging of the lakes, refreshment rooms and planting in both parks. Considering her many long-lasting public gifts to the city, Louisa Ryland is not very well known. Irene de Boo's talk will look at the life and wealth of this remarkable female Victorian philanthropist.


Irene de Boo has worked in the Birmingham Museums and Heritage sector since moving to Birmingham from the Netherlands. She joined the museum service in 1997 as Birmingham History Curator and a few years later took on the role of Curator/Manager for Blakesley Hall, Sarehole Mill and Weoley Castle where she delivered several capital projects and was responsible for the day-to-day management of the properties. In 2014 Irene moved to the Black Country Living Museum where she was Head of Collections. Since 2019 she has been working on a freelance basis on various heritage projects in the Birmingham area.

This seminar will be delivered by Zoom with the meeting link delivered with confirmation email after registration.

Image: The Birmingham Civic Society Blue Plaque dedicated to Louisa Ryland at Cannon Hill Park, Birmingham.
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Tulip festival 1962 plus some pics from 1964 I cycled through the park on my way to work in Selley Park
 

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There is a thread about the model.

Cannon Hill Park model of Elan Valley Dams

Hello, I am trying to find out about the model of the Elan Valley dams which is situated in Canon Hill Park and wondered if anyone remembers it being installed or has any pictures of it when it went in in the 1960s or any other relevant information. We are hoping to do something to celebrate...
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The Red Lion Cannon Hill park a hot July heat haze day in 1995 on a UK visit. It was in good repair back then. A hazed view of the lake from the Red Lion.
 

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Cannon Hill Park about 1955. I love those traditional timber rowing boats of my youth.
 

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My Grandfather Alban Timms was a member from about 1945 to December 1953. He walked there and back from his home in Trafalgar Road Moseley
 

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just a typo error mickyE post 233 and viv its the golden lion not the red lion...easily done

lyn
 
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