Sue Watson
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Looking for any information on Emily Josephine Elder born in Lambeth 1847 (parents Joseph Elder and Jane Howard Jones). On census 1861 aged 13 but disappeared by 1871. Any information appreciated.
How did you manage to find out all this?
I also found a criminal record for an Emily Elder dated 14 April 1871 at Birmingham court, 7 years imprisonment for simple larceny. I haven't been able to verify this is the same Emily Elder - any ideas how I could do this.
As her forenames are not that common tried the easiest thing first, searching for a death/marriage for an Emily Josephine in case surname was misspelt. Nothing from that so tried searching for children in the Bham area with mmn Elder. Not always possible but luckily this time got a couple of results and then it was just a case of tracking them down and seeing who the mothers were. Luckily there weren't that many and one of them was Emily and she matched.
In regards the criminal offence, there are no other Emily Elders in the area and there's only one other birth reg. for one so it seems possible that it's her. There are a couple of mentions in the newspapers, one mentions an address of Heath Mill Lane in 1871 and another says she can only read and write imperfectly which, as her mother is listed as a teacher of music, I find a little surprising. Though I may be assuming that that was a bit more formal than it actually was.
I can see 3 articles Lyn...
20 Jan 1871 Bham Daily Gazette & 21 Jan 1871 Aris's Bham Gazette mention Heath Mill Lane and that she (and others) were committed to Sessions.
15 Apr 1871 mentions the reading and writing and that she pleaded guilty.
That's great. The dates seem to tie in if she was in prison from 1871 to 1878 and then met John Hall just after so by 1881 back on the census as Emily Hall. I've been looking for ages - would never have found it so thank you so muchAs her forenames are not that common tried the easiest thing first, searching for a death/marriage for an Emily Josephine in case surname was misspelt. Nothing from that so tried searching for children in the Bham area with mmn Elder. Not always possible but luckily this time got a couple of results and then it was just a case of tracking them down and seeing who the mothers were. Luckily there weren't that many and one of them was Emily and she matched.
In regards the criminal offence, there are no other Emily Elders in the area and there's only one other birth reg. for one so it seems possible that it's her. There are a couple of mentions in the newspapers, one mentions an address of Heath Mill Lane in 1871 and another says she can only read and write imperfectly which, as her mother is listed as a teacher of music, I find a little surprising. Though I may be assuming that that was a bit more formal than it actually was.
I will have a look at the newspapers you mention - again many thanksI can see 3 articles Lyn...
20 Jan 1871 Bham Daily Gazette & 21 Jan 1871 Aris's Bham Gazette mention Heath Mill Lane and that she (and others) were committed to Sessions.
15 Apr 1871 mentions the reading and writing and that she pleaded guilty.