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Birmingham weddings of the past

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Wendy

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While sorting through some old papers I came across a little book which contains details of my mother's bottom drawer which is dated 1937 and a price list of her wedding needs and a list of wedding presents and who brought them. I found it facinating as my parents married in 1940 when the war was on so the items would have to be brought with coupons. Here is the price list.
Mom’s wedding price list 1940
Coat £ 5. 00.0
Shoes £ 0.18.0
Gloves £ 0.10.0
Bag £ 0.10.0
Dress £ 1. 00.0
Hat £ 1. 01.0
Perm £1. 01.0
Cake £2.00.0
Costume £3.18.0
Hat £0.18.0
Shoes £0.17.0
 
Thanks for that, Wendy. An interesting list. The whole exercise looks a hideously expensive business, then as now.

I think I am right in saying that clothes rationing didn’t start in this country until June 1941. Even so there must have been shortages, certainly in the latter half of 1940, as the country’s industrial war effort gathered pace. I recall the sense of gloom amongst the ladies of our household when a new stocking ladder was discovered; and the excitement when a bit of parachute fabric became available. It can’t have been easy getting married then and the difficulties continued well after the end of the war. I remember my father making furniture for my sister in 1947/8, and artistically improving the austere, utility items which she was allowed to buy.

Surprisingly, whilst the Germans took a long time to approach anywhere near our degree of workforce mobilisation, their rationing started much earlier – at the very outset of war - and was much more swingeing. But then their Government had a much better idea than anyone else of what its intentions were and what the future held.

Chris
 
Wendy,

What a fascinating bit of information from the past. I was surprised to see that the perm was slightly more expensive than the dress. A question, if I may, there were two listings for shoes. Would there be a reason for two pair of shoes for the wedding?

Norma
 
Hi all,

My mom's wedding came to the sum of £350 way back in 1953 - no expense spared so I am told!

My wedding in 1977 came to £2700 - a big lavish affair !!

My daughters forthcoming wedding in August this year = ....... £19,000

help !
 
Diane,

Better go rob a bank! laughs. Weddings are very expensive now. I think, were I young and getting married, I'd almost rather have a very small, intimate dinner with close family and use the money to put a down payment on a home, something solid that will increase in value and bring years and years of good memories. But, I guess weddings are special in their own way.

Norma
 
My 1st wedding cost me an absolute fortune and never lasted.
For my second wedding, we both jumped in the car, drove to the registry office in Solihull and we are both as happy as pigs in pooh.
 
Interesting thread everyone...Wendy, your Mom's list is for her personal items and it looks like perms were expensive back then. I would imagine the second pair of shoes might have been to match her Going Away outfit, as we used to call what brides changed into to travel on their honeymoon. Did your parents have their reception at home? Was it common to rent a room or hall in those days? The extras would have added quite a bit to
the total.

My wedding cost my Father a fair bit since it was held here in Vancouver and the airfares for my parents were a big factor apart from all the other expenses for a truly special day with 60 guests. This was in 1974.

Dianne, your daughter's wedding is costing a whopping nineteen-thousand pounds you mention. That's a lot of money...However, on these reality wedding shows we have on TV here, it's amazing how much is spent on weddings in general these days and weddings in far flung places are not uncommon as well. Very different times.

My daughter Michelle will be married next year in Japan where she now lives but she only wants to have a small wedding so we are keeping our fingers crossed that this is really what she wants.
 
Hi Norma,

It started off as a small wedding ha ha - they have done the "norm" these days, bought the house, then had the kids , and now decide to get married ?! venue alone is £12,000 , eight bridesmaids (didn't want her pals to feel left out!) - 2 limousines to carry bridesmaids and me to venue , everytime I talk to her she has added more - still it is their special day and she does deserve it .. , she will look lovely on the day , many years ago I took out a savings plan for such a thing and I am now thanking God on a daily basis for giving me the sense to do so.

PS I've lost all my smilies again
 
The savings account was a very wise plan, indeed. Now you can enjoy it without feeling too much strain or robbing the bank! I hope everyone has a wonderful time at the wedding.

Perhaps you should make a list so that in later generations they can compare the costs to what it will be in the future.

No smilies here either. Must be a glich in the system.

Norma
 
Hi Postie

Nice to hear that , a friend of mine had a big "White wedding" way back in 1980 , cost a fortune, marriage lasted 7 months, she re-married in 1985 at Birmingham Register Office, my husband and I were witnesses and that was it - we went for a drink and a meal in Broad Street afterwards, cost less than £120 and they are still happily married
 
Dianne, it all sounds lovely for your daughter's wedding and as you say thank goodness you started a savings plan to cover any expenses. Where will she be having her reception? There are so many lovely places these days for wedding receptions.
 
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I suppose I should have explained more but I only know a little. Mom and Dad were married in September so it would have been when things were in short supply. I know she couldn't have a white dress as they were very expensive at this time. The dress and shoes were her going away outfit there honeymoon was 3 days in Lichfield. The costume was a suit. My mom hated hats but she had to have one, bought from Miss Bretnells in Brum which I believe closed not long ago. Here is a photo of the happy couple notice mom is minus the hat!
 
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Hi all,

Wendy .. that is a lovely photo, I love those old photo's - so 1940's , do you remember way back in the 1980's when it was all back in fashion, I used to spend a fortune in Wallis, padded shoulders etc etc.

Jennyann - my daughter Kelly is getting married and holding reception at New Hall Hotel in Sutton Coldfield , they have an amazing marquee (definately not correct spelling) but they are soooooo expensive , but it is what she wanted and so how could I object,

.. Take a look at their website, just google New hall Hotel, Sutton Coldfield,
 
Dianne: New Hall Hotel is such a magical place. Perfect place for a traditional English wedding. Thanks.
 
After my first wedding they pulled the church down! Honest truth. Church of the Redeemer on the Hagley Road, Brum. The church still outlived the marriage though, that only lasted two years. Got married here at the Town Hall, we're still a very happy pair and the Town Hall is still standing!
 
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Wendy loved reading your list of your Mom's wedding.

Col' and I paid for our own wedding 40 years ago at Uxbridge Reg' in Middlesex. It cost very little, catering and reception done by a friend at her home (who was in that business), cake made by work colleagues and friends from when I worked at Garners Bakery Middx, photo's taken by my brother (who turned up late, but not as bad as being late for his own wedding a week later at the same reg'), dress made by the same friend who did the catering all done as wedding gifts for us both. The flowers were bought and put together by myself and my cousin's whom I was living with.
Our daughter had an expensive white wedding that lasted 5 years...
I'm sorry to say often more thought, planning and expense goes in to the wedding rather than what happens after it...
Col' and I have a number of friends our age who had big weddings and are now on their second or even third relationship, I do realize not all big weddings end that way, but so many do.

Pom .
 
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Wendy, how lovely to have your mom's list, written with a lot of pleasure no doubt. I can still recall going to Lewis's with a list of the bits and pieces that you need to start married life. i.e potato peeler, bread board, grater, wahing up bowl, tea towels, cake tins etc. I think they gave me as much pleasure as buying my 'going away outfit'.
 
David that is priceless and I so enjoyed it.

Maybe you are right about expensive weddings Chris, we have been married 40 years this year and ours wasn't expensive. We got married at St Andrews and had the reception at the New Inns. Wish I could remember how much it was but we paid for it ourselves I know. The whole thing was not very expensive. Mo
 
Langy:
I really had a bit of a laugh when I read your story about your brother's wedding. The photo without the Groom is priceless...but hey that's what makes the story special. I expect he got a bit mixed up at the time but was sort of following your instructions once you donned your professional photographers hat as it were.....all that power over those wedding guests. Thank goodness that you had a camera and were able to record the usual photographs at the wedding. Looks like things got a little bit out of hand in the effort to have a really great day and events mushroomed as the planning went on.
On the day "events" were happening to delay the proceedings at the reception. I loved the part when Paul turned up with the bags full of
Asda "end of day" bargains. What are mice on sticks? I'm having a giggle
at the possibilities although I am sure they are delicious.
The day was memorable indeed and sounds like a good time was had by all.

I haven't been to a wedding where a fight broke out but I have been to a wedding where the bride's family spent the whole reception hidden away in one room and the groom's family in another and no words were spoken. Very odd but memorable to be sure.

Thanks for posting Langy......One thing...Why was the car going to the breaker's yard?
 
Your Mom's list is so interesting Wendy but that would have been a lot of money in 1940. It must have been fascinating finding all that information. What a pity we didn't all do that when we got married or even if we did make sure we kept it in a safe place. Great thread Wendy. Mo
 
Jennyann

The mice on stick term refers to Thai chicken pieces on skewers they are so tiny they look like mice on sticks, The car was returned to the breakers yard because that is where it was borrowed from for the day.

I've been to several expensive weddings since being exiled to Yorkshire but this one was the nicest, much fun had by all and everyone chipped in to help them out a real friends and family occasion. The bride and groom held hands throughout the day and still do it's sickening to see them sit so close after four years.
 
It's a little sad that my Dad died when Mom was only fifty she said she would never love again, she died at 86. Perhaps this is why she kept these things.
 
Langy's story is very entertaining and beautifully told - especially when followed by his later post-script.
It's over 48 years since we were wed, and I don't remember much of the details, only the uncertainties I felt at the time. One thing I do recall is that I had a suit made to measure by Alkit's (specialist in Colonial and military outfit) of Cambridge Circus in London for £24. That was almost more than I could afford in those days, but I made up for it using my best white shirt with an old clip-on dicky bow, I'd bought in Brum some years before. I've just looked through the old wedding pics, and found the photos below. The one of us on the right shows our gear, and on the left are some of Barbara's close family (mother on left, sisters on right), and friends. You will see that - as was the custom in Berlin in those days -
the elderly ladies wore fur stoles. One of them seems very interested in the message my sister-in-law seems to be texting. She was the kind old lady who subsidised the reception, which was held in the family house, with a hired chef and asistant, and the cleaning lady from over the border in Potsdam, who was always glad for a bit of hard currency, and was a good worker. She looked very smart in her East German equivalent of a
'nippy's' uniform, too.
As all this took place in West Berlin, and we had thirteen cases and boxes of Barbara's stuff plus wedding prezzies to take back with us to London, we decided to just disappear for a couple of nights to a quiet suburban hotel just down the road from the church.
I had a bit of experience in this sort of thing, as I had been best man at my father's wedding just over two years earlier, because my mother had died young at 46, so he remarried, and they had 15 years together before he died.
Peter
 
It's very uplifting to hear the stories of the weddings and to discuss the differences between the 1940's and today. I really enjoy reading this post. Can't add much as I've never married. We have a rule in my family that each generation has to have two old maids. In my generation it's my older sister and me. The next generation, my niece just turned 38 and is still unmarried. I guess some traditions are hard to break..LOL

Norma
 
taxi.jpgI ALL
just come across this receipt from my late inlaws wedding .June 6 1931. 2 cars and a photographer for 30 bob ,the reception was
most likely held in some ones front room. Happy days


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