Sansum, Ladywood

[steveo3]

Any help please on Fred Sansum b. c1889 whose Mom I believe worked in cafe in Dartmouth St.

 

[brummy-lad]

Could this be him?

 

[sospiri]

Steve,

The nearest entry I can find to his birth date is on the 1891 Census - Fred Samson son of Edward & Mary Ann SAMSON of 3 House 27 Court Camden Street. His father was a blacksmith, mother not working and he had 5 older siblings.

Maurice

 

[MWS]

I think that's Frederica Sansum.

 

[brummy-lad]

I think that's Frederica Sansum.

I agree, thanks, I need to check more carefully.

 

[steveo3]

Could this be him?

Thanks for reply but I can't be sure all I know is he had an older brother William and I don't think there's a William on this
Steveo

 

[Astoness]

Could this be him?

what year is that john

lyn

 

[brummy-lad]

what year is that john

lyn

I got it wrong Lyn that census was for Frederica

 

[steveo3]

Steve,

The nearest entry I can find to his birth date is on the 1891 Census - Fred Samson son of Edward & Mary Ann SAMSON of 3 House 27 Court Camden Street. His father was a blacksmith, mother not working and he had 5 older siblings.

Maurice

Thanks for your post Maurice
I think this is the closest to him but his mother is'nt working nor is she on 1911 census but only has daughter with her.
Another snippet I was given was that he may have worked for Fletchers don't know anything about them.
Steveo

 

[MWS]

I think we need something concrete. Year/place of death? Place of birth?

 

[sospiri]

Yes, employers' names are not a lot of use as they don't appear on official documents, or very very rarely.

Maurice

 

[steveo3]

I think we need something concrete. Year/place of death? Place of birth?

I've no idea of his date of birth just that according to one of my 'Aunts', he was about 12/15 years older then my paternal grandmother or 'Auntie' Rose as we called her born Dec.1901, and that he had a brother William & might have worked at Fletchers. I think born in Birmingham.
Steveo

 

[MWS]

On the 1901 census there is a Frederick Sansum b1880 & Frederick Sansom b1885.

Frederick Sansum b1880 is listed as a Warehouseman & Nail Works. Boarder of a George Gibson.

Frederick Sansom b1885 is listed as a Jeweller. Boarder of an Elizabeth Mills.

 

[pjmburns]

There is a Frederick Sansum reg in Aston 1880.
There is a birth of a Frederick Sansom reg in Birmingham 1887. I think this one may have died the same year.

 

[steveo3]

There is a Frederick Sansum reg in Aston 1880.
There is a birth of a Frederick Sansom reg in Birmingham 1887. I think this one may have died the same year.

Thanks for your help on this one but I think 1880 is too old & I found the 1887 one who appears to be a twin with George & they are both deceased 1887
Steveo