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Stratford Road

sospiri

Ex-pat Brummie
Nice story, Mike. My other half, long before I met her, was working behind behind the counter of a DHSS office in London that dealt solely with vagrants, amongst whom were many claimants, who as well as being homeless, were disposed to drink and/or drugs. For this reason they were paid on a daily basis. Screens to protect the staff went up to the ceiling and there was a back entrance that came out into the yard of a police station. She said that, despite this, several of the claimants, well able to look after themselves, and despite their failings in other facets of their lives, were protective of the staff and were prepared to deal with trouble makers if they happened to be in the office at the time of an incident, and hold them until the police arrived.

Her boss, a finance officer, was walking down the street one day when he was attacked by a claimant with a long knife. What the assilant didn't know was that her boss was an ex-Royal Marine, and he promptly flattened the guy! Like you, she didn't stay there very long either. :)

Maurice :cool:
 

sospiri

Ex-pat Brummie
Janice,

You had me thinking there for a minute as the name V.A. Luck was ringing distant bells from the time when I lived in Knowle Road for the whole of the 1940s! And yes, I think I know where you mean now.

Maurice :cool:
 

boringmike

knowlegable brummie
You are quite right, The Mermaid was further down the Stratford road on the junction with Warwick Road. Opposite the Mermaid on the Y junction was V A Luck timber merchants. A little further down was a barber shop by the name of Vincenzo Di Matteo which I believe is still there after 55 years and a little further down the car dealership Mario Delliotti. As I mentioned before There was A Ferrari Dealership of Colmore Depot at the top of the hill up from the College Arms, didn't realise what an exotic location it was! Between Doctor Johnson's and the Co Op milkyard was the Post Office where my Mum would pick up the family allowance on her way to Mac Fisheries. I also remember her taxing our car with a big green cardboard log book. Does anyone remember the name of the record shop next to Enterprise hardware, Studio Musica was in Shirley, was it Midland Music?
Quite right, I have the two pubs mixed up, it was the College Arms opposite V A Lucks, just nother senior moment!
 

boringmike

knowlegable brummie
Nice story, Mike. My other half, long before I met her, was working behind behind the counter of a DHSS office in London that dealt solely with vagrants, amongst whom were many claimants, who as well as being homeless, were disposed to drink and/or drugs. For this reason they were paid on a daily basis. Screens to protect the staff went up to the ceiling and there was a back entrance that came out into the yard of a police station. She said that, despite this, several of the claimants, well able to look after themselves, and despite their failings in other facets of their lives, were protective of the staff and were prepared to deal with trouble makers if they happened to be in the office at the time of an incident, and hold them until the police arrived.

Her boss, a finance officer, was walking down the street one day when he was attacked by a claimant with a long knife. What the assilant didn't know was that her boss was an ex-Royal Marine, and he promptly flattened the guy! Like you, she didn't stay there very long either. :)

Maurice :cool:
One other memory, and I can remember all the names, was when I had a lady came into a cubicle for an interview with her "partner" , she said look what he's done to me, took off her head scarf and lifted her hair and scalp to reveal her her skull, she seemed to think it was acceptable! I will never forget that moment, I had a pretty genteel upbringing and it realy, shocked me, she seemed to think it was acceptable???????????????
 

sospiri

Ex-pat Brummie
Mike,

As I don't need to tell you, there are some pretty brutal people about and naturally you would ask "Why do you stay with him?". But some don't have a great deal of choice as the hostels for such women must be full by now. And many cultures regard this as the norm. You either have to have a very thick skin or an extremely caring attitude to remain in a job like that for long.

Maurice :cool:
 

pjmburns

master brummie
Janice,

You had me thinking there for a minute as the name V.A. Luck was ringing distant bells from the time when I lived in Knowle Road for the whole of the 1940s! And yes, I think I know where you mean now.

Maurice :cool:
Maurice. It would have been "round the corner" from Knowle Road. It was on Shaftmoor Lane. (At least I think it is still Shaftmoor at that point). Flats on the site now.
 

sospiri

Ex-pat Brummie
Hi Janice,

So presumably opposite what was the back door of the College Arms? I think the front door is now on Shaftmoor Lane. A few years since I took my other half to look at our old house in Knowle Road, and we moved to Kings Heath in 1950. I think my memory bank needs refreshing! :) I quite often used to walk up to Reddings Lane with mates in those days so must have passed it fairly frequently. Also had a schoolmate that lived at 30 Bromyard Road, so must have been close every time I walked around to his house. Happy days! And thanks.

Maurice :cool:
 

pjmburns

master brummie
Hi Maurice. Timber yard was on corner of Leominster - think it was a bit further down than I remembered. Yello shows Knowle Road - not sure which end you lived (my Nan's cousin was at nummber 7) and the red circle is College Arms with the red marker at the timber yard.
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pjmburns

master brummie
A bit off thread but College Arms is on corner of Stratford Road. :)
Google street view:
red circle is where Luck's was - now flats.
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sospiri

Ex-pat Brummie
Well, Janice, the thread title is Stratford Road and that's near enough for me. Luck's was probably where I though it would be, but so many things have changed in 70 years. Our old house is number 215, immediately before the bombsite on the left. Your Nan's cousin's house would be the fourth one in on the same side from Formans Road end. The blank space on the right hand side of the road was the entrance to the allotments, which follow the River Cole all the way up to Foremans Road. Sadly that entrance is now fenced and locked with keys now only available to allotment holders, presumably due to theft and vandalism, something that was not prevalent in our day.

Cox's the scrapyard on the corner of Knowle Road and Stratford Road has gone and been built on and the first house on that side, which had been converted to Mrs Carter's corner shop, is now back as a house. Come to think of it, she was already a widow and knocking on a bit when I lived there! :):) :)

Maurice :cool:
 
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pjmburns

master brummie
Maurice - I know where you mean re: allotments, as have walked along Cole to Forman's Road and then back down Knowle Road and then to home.
Visited number 7 on several occasions as a child.
 

farmerdave

master brummie
There was a Hardware Shop on the Stratford Road in Hall Green and it was called the Ideal Home Supply. It was located opposite Hall Green Parade in the short run of shops between Willmonts (Cubley Road) and the Rialto cinema. My Dad used to go in there for methylated spirits which he used for a heater in his small greenhouse during the Winter. I went in there once to get a clamp that fitted on the base of an old-fashioned flat-iron. That would have been in the mid-1950s. The owner said that he "didn't have much call for them these days". Sounds as if our house was late in using electric irons. The shop completely burned down in January 1958. Perhaps it was due to the methylated spirits not being properly contained. Dave
 

farmerdave

master brummie
First photograph conveniently says Stratford Road but I'm not sure of the exact location. Could be Sparkbrook or Sparkhill. It was taken in 1987. The second photograph was taken on the same day and shows a run of shops, some of which look in need of repair. Not sure whether this is on the Stratford Road. Dave.
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sospiri

Ex-pat Brummie
Dave,

In the second picture the second building from the left says Auto & General Insurance Brokers. This company only seems to have existed from 1966-1972 at just two addresses, 477a Washwood Heath Road, and Ladywell House, Hurst Street. No mention of Stratford Road at all. Can't make out the name of the travel agent (far left) and the Rose of Bengal Indian Tandoori Restaurant is not listed in the directories.

Maurice :)
 
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pjmburns

master brummie
First building has now been completely rebuilt but is still (as in the photo) Guru Nanak Gurdwara. I think they must have taken over the buildings on the left of the photo as well.
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Radiorails

master brummie
First photograph conveniently says Stratford Road but I'm not sure of the exact location. Could be Sparkbrook or Sparkhill. It was taken in 1987. The second photograph was taken on the same day and shows a run of shops, some of which look in need of repair. Not sure whether this is on the Stratford Road. Dave.
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The second photo - row of shops - is a curious photo. Some shops are still open, a couple to the right seem closed.
Most of the upstairs rooms are empty it seems and many windows are open. The far right of the block roof tiles are missing,
There are two possible explanations I believe the first partial demolition or renovation and the second is that there was a serious fire. The end shop has a boarded up front and has lost Its upper floors. The building to the right has been demolished. The common roof void would have enabled smoke and heat to progress to the upstairs rooms of adjacent properties. Hence the open windows.
My view is that the second option is what has happened i.e. a serious fire.
 

sospiri

Ex-pat Brummie
Hi Janice,

My info was from a directory search on Midlands Historical Data, with no listing for the insurance brokers on Stratford Road coming up. So much has changed since the 1940s when I lived in Sparkhill. :)

Maurice :cool:
 
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