Reddell

[jdn5764]

I am looking for anything on Emma Reddall who married Edward Hands.

They had to my knowledge just two children, Rosina and Mary Ann Hands (my Gt GrandMother) born 21st October 1877. She married Alfred Allcock I think Sept 1901. They had 7 or 8 childten.

On the 1901 census there is a Lilian Reddall. Who is listed as the Grand Daughter (whose child she was from their daughters is still a mystery).

If anyone can help it would be appreciated.

 

[leslam]

Marriage appears to be Q1 1871, Birmingham 6d 10

Here are the family in 1881:

HANDS, Edward, Head, Married, M, 41, 1840, Carpenter, Bham Warwickshire
HANDS, Emma, Wife, Married, F, 43, 1838, Bham Warwickshire
HANDS, Rose, Daughter, Single, F, 9, 1872, Scholar, Bham Warwickshire
HANDS, Thomas, Son, Single, M, 8, 1873, Scholar, Bham Warwickshire
HANDS, Mary Ann, Daughter, Single, F, 3, 1878, Bham Warwickshire
HANDS, Emma, Daughter, Single, F,1, 1880, Bham Warwickshire

 

[leslam]

Sorry, should have added that address in 1881 was 27, Hunters Vale, Aston

 

[ladylinda]

Here is Edward Hands,Rosina and Lillian in 1911
1911
PHILLIPES, Rosina (Head) Widow aged 39 born 1872 born Birm
HANDS, Edward (Father) Widow aged 71 born 1840 born Birm, Carpenter
PHILLIPS, Lilian Martha (Niece) aged 13 born 1898 born Birm
Address: 27 Hunters Vale Aston Manor (6 rooms)

 

[ladylinda]

Marriage
Rosina and Charles Harry married June 1895
Phillips Charles Harry,Hands Rosina : Aston vol 6d page 520

 

[ladylinda]

Hi again
From the electoral rolls and BMD
1912
Rosina Phillips was living at 27 Hunters Vale.
Thomas Flynn married Rosina Phillips Dec 1915 Aston vol 6d page 1315
1925,Thomas and Rosina Flynn
1930 until at least 1939 ,Thomas and Rosina Flynn, Alfred John Godfrey Gibbs and Lilian Martha Gibbs
Lilian M Reddall married Alfred John Godfrey Gibbs Jun 1926 Birmingham N vol 6d page 1015. (if you send for this marriage cert,you should find out Lilian's father?)
Hope this helps

 

[Pomgolian]

1891 Census
Place: Aston -Warwickshire
Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical Parish: St Silas

Address: 27 Hunters Vale

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
HANDS Edward Head M M 57 Carpenter(Em'ee) Warwickshire - Birmingham
HANDS Emma Wife M F 53 Warwickshire - Birmingham
HANDS Rosina Dau S F 19 Rule Marker(Em'ee) Warwickshire - Birmingham
HANDS John T Son S M 16 Coal Salesman (Retail)(Em'ee) Warwickshire - Birmingham
HANDS Mary A Dau - F 13 Scholar Warwickshire - Birmingham
HANDS Emma Dau - F 11 Warwickshire - Aston

 

[jdn5764]

Thank you all so much. This is so fascinating to ne,

 

[Pomgolian]

Births Mar 1898 Reddall Lilian Martha Birmingham Vol 6d page119
You may need to get the birth cet' to find out...

 

[leslam]

I thought that the name "Mary Ann Hands" was familiar, so I did a search. If you look on the following thread, the last entry (or towards the bottom anyway), contains information on a Mary Ann Hands that was married in early 1800s. A piece of information to store away for when you get further back....?

https://forum.birminghamhistory.co.uk/showthread.php?t=24007&highlight=Mary+Ann+Hands&styleid=25

 

[ladylinda]

A bit more info
1871
Hands Edward age 31 (Head) Birmingham,Carpenter
Hands Emma 34 Wife,Birmingham, Burnisher
Baxendale Edward 16,Boarder,Salford, Manchester,Jeweller
Baxendale Frederick 6 Boarder, Natural, France
all living 3 Back 131 Loxton Street, St George
Interestingly Emma's brother,Mark Reddell was living next door at 2 back of 131 Loxton St.He was aged 28 and with wife Elizabeth aged 28,son George 5,daughter Eliza 3,Minna 1.At the same address were Winifred Heath a widow aged 50,(boarder),Esther Heath 9 (boarder) and Sarah Stamp aged 21 and single (boarder).
This could be the Reddells in
1851 (name as spelt on census)
Reddle John 44 Head born Birmingham,Gold Plater
Reddle Mary A 46 Wife born Birmingham
Reddle Rose Hannah 20, born Birmingham,Button Solder
Reddle William 18 born Birmingham, Jeweller
Reddle Sarah 16 born Birmingham,Dress Maker
Reddle Emma 14 born Birmingham,Servant
Reddle Mary A 12 born Birmingham,Servant
Reddle John 10,born Birmingham,
Reddle Mark 8 born Birmingham,
Reddle Eliza 6 born Birmingham,
living at Back Of 28 Well St, Birmingham St George, Warwickshire
1861 (spelling as transcribed)
Readdell John 51 Head Birmingham,Wire Drawer
Readdell Mary 55 Wife Birmingham,Solderer
Readdell Rose Ann 29 Daughter, Birmingham,Burnisher
Readdell Emma 23 Daughter Birmingham,Burnisher
Readdell Mary Ann 22 Daughter Birmingham,Prop Worker
Readdell John 22 Son Birmingham, Jeweller
Readdell Mark 18 Son Birmingham,Jeweller
Readdell Eliza 16 Daughter Birmingham, Burnisher
Readdell Alfred 2 Son Birmingham,
all living Court Next 26 Well Street, Birmingham, Warwickshire

 

[jdn5764]

Thank you all very much on all this. Linda your amazing with your knowledge of this. Thank you very much.


Just need to find out where to get certificates from and I'll be getting them.

 

[Pomgolian]

The same Reddall family in 1841..
Place: Birmingham -Warwickshire
Civil Parish: B'ham (St George)

Address: 10 Crt 4 Hse St George St

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born
REDDALL John M 30 Jeweller Warwickshire
REDDALL Mary F 30 Warwickshire
REDDALL William M 8 Warwickshire
REDDALL Rose F 10 Warwickshire
REDDALL Sarah F 6 Warwickshire
REDDALL Emma F 4 Warwickshire
REDDALL Mary F 3 Warwickshire
REDDALL John M 6m Warwickshire

 

[jdn5764]

Thank you all for your invaluable help.