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Looking for Payne family who had their own engineering business, thanks
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Payne - Engineering
Hi Colin, thanks for your email post. My gradfather Herbert Geoffrey Payne (b.1900) from the Handsworth area had his own business, we think it was called Payne and Ruddock.
His father Herbert William (b. 1866) was also in Engineering/Brassfoundry but we don't know if this business was passed down the family or whether HG started it with 'Ruddock'. HW is shown on census reports as an employer and in 1881 his father Joseph Payne (b. 1836) is also an employer living in Edgbaston as a Brassfounder employing '11 men and 1 youth' so we suspect it may be family business?
Any ideas how I can find out more about the business/es would be appreciated.
Hi Colin, thanks for your email post. My gradfather Herbert Geoffrey Payne (b.1900) from the Handsworth area had his own business, we think it was called Payne and Ruddock.
His father Herbert William (b. 1866) was also in Engineering/Brassfoundry but we don't know if this business was passed down the family or whether HG started it with 'Ruddock'. HW is shown on census reports as an employer and in 1881 his father Joseph Payne (b. 1836) is also an employer living in Edgbaston as a Brassfounder employing '11 men and 1 youth' so we suspect it may be family business?
Any ideas how I can find out more about the business/es would be appreciated.
ColinB
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annoying.sister,can't find any reference to Payne & Ruddock engineers/brass founders,have however found Payne & Griffiths,est 1825, see advertisment below.This was on the Historical Directories site.It may be worth searching further on that site
https://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/index.asp
Perhaps John will be along later he should be able to help.
There was a company I remember,not sure if its still trading today as Rudders & Payne,they were builders merchants.
Colin
https://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/index.asp
Perhaps John will be along later he should be able to help.
There was a company I remember,not sure if its still trading today as Rudders & Payne,they were builders merchants.
Colin
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Coincidence?
Hi Colin.
Thanks for your post. This has uncovered something really interesting! The advert for Payne and Griffiths I have seen before in my search and had discounted. However, last week I found another entry in Whites ... the lady that married my Joseph Payne was called Emily Glasgow and her father David in the Whites directory of 1850's is listed as his company factory being at 10 Cross Street which is the same address as for Payne and Griffiths! I need to get my head round this one! ???
Hi Colin.
Thanks for your post. This has uncovered something really interesting! The advert for Payne and Griffiths I have seen before in my search and had discounted. However, last week I found another entry in Whites ... the lady that married my Joseph Payne was called Emily Glasgow and her father David in the Whites directory of 1850's is listed as his company factory being at 10 Cross Street which is the same address as for Payne and Griffiths! I need to get my head round this one! ???
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Payne - Engineering
Hi John, thanks for your info. On the 1881 and 1891 census reports, Joseph's home address is down as 227 Ladywood Road not Ladypool Road .... could this be a coincidence ??? ? Could you possibly post me the link for the 1921 Kelly's - I have only just discovered Historical Directories and can't find my way round it very well just yet! Many thanks, Joanne
Hi John, thanks for your info. On the 1881 and 1891 census reports, Joseph's home address is down as 227 Ladywood Road not Ladypool Road .... could this be a coincidence ??? ? Could you possibly post me the link for the 1921 Kelly's - I have only just discovered Historical Directories and can't find my way round it very well just yet! Many thanks, Joanne
