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Location wanted for this bus if possible

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Onceabrummie

proper brummie kid
As a new member to the site you are blowing me away with your tenacity over this bus. Keep up the good work. I just love seeing the bus and have now started to remember all the places I used to go on it .. roller rink, baths, library, coventry road shopping...
 

Grea

master brummie
As a new member to the site you are blowing me away with your tenacity over this bus. Keep up the good work. I just love seeing the bus and have now started to remember all the places I used to go on it .. roller rink, baths, library, coventry road shopping...
I am not a new member to this site yet I too am amazed at how others have got stuck in to try to find the exact location. That’s what makes it such a good site G
 

Astonian

gone but not forgotten
Hi Guys
Thanks john and of course mowhawk for putting it up and yes john well snipped that is hockley brook
And yes it did passing the school frontage in those days befor all the road alterations that its heading towards
Springhill ivy bush edgbaston and on to the hagley road towards five ways in those days it was Islington row
As i have said i lived on the corner of monument road and kingedwards road the bus was always packed with us
Kids from ladywood most fro Anditon street and surrounding street and our mom got those free education
Plastic penny coins to travel free we all got off at the flat [ lodge rd ] and walked down to the school
When we came out after school we got the bus back home from that stop good old days. from the word go i
Knew it was not springhill libary Astonian;;;;
 

Williamstreeter

master brummie
Yes it's St Luke's Church at the junction of St Lukes Road and Bristol Street.

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To be honest Phil I'd have my doubts about St Lukes Road,plus in the original pic the stonework features highlighted by OM do not match up with St L and there is a steeple over the roof of the bus thats not in the St L pic . Also to my knowledge the no 8 never went near St Lukes Road , it crossed Bristol St from the bottom of Islington Row as per the route shown then went to the Belgrave Rd
 

sospiri

Ex-pat Brummie
Amazing, Phil. :)

I've found that most of all it is the ordinary run of the mill searches that frequently fail to bear fruit. Sequences of number and letters ( the longer the better) often turn up trumps because of their uniqueness.

Maurice
 

oldMohawk

master brummie
As a new member to the site you are blowing me away with your tenacity over this bus. Keep up the good work. I just love seeing the bus and have now started to remember all the places I used to go on it .. roller rink, baths, library, coventry road shopping...
I've looked at many old photos of places on the old Inner Circle route but cannot identify the location. It seems only the photographer and the bus driver knew where they were back in 1959. Maybe the bus was on it's way from a depot to join the route. I added colour as I was looking at it ...
C2InnerCircle.jpeg
 

Phil

Gone, but not forgotten.
I have studied all of the 1,178 photos of churches, schools and similar building that I have in my collection. Paying close attention to any on or near the number 8 route, I have studied the book about the number 8 route that the photo comes from. I even went through all the photos that I sorted for my post on the number 8 route a little while back and in desperation I went around the route on Google in the vain hope that something might remain from the late 50's that might help with identification, all to no avail.

I am now out of ideas unless anybody has a suggestion. We do think it's a church or a school don't we?
 

oldMohawk

master brummie
It does look like a church or possibly some large school but I am also out of ideas and now reduced to wondering why they did not tarmac over that patch of road and gutter behind the bus !
 

Radiorails

master brummie
I have studied all of the 1,178 photos of churches, schools and similar building that I have in my collection. Paying close attention to any on or near the number 8 route, I have studied the book about the number 8 route that the photo comes from. I even went through all the photos that I sorted for my post on the number 8 route a little while back and in desperation I went around the route on Google in the vain hope that something might remain from the late 50's that might help with identification, all to no avail.

I am now out of ideas unless anybody has a suggestion. We do think it's a church or a school don't we?

Your tenacity and photo collection are remarkable Phil.
My current take on this photo is this. It is an Inner Circle bus, but not on the 8 route. I suggest it has turned right from exiting Icknield Street and is on its way to Roseberry Street Garage. The bus stop seen to the right of the photo could be the stop after the crossroads in Spring Hill looking towards Dudley Road. The side of the library in Spring Hill has affinity to that in the photo. So the photographer has the correct junction but wrong road I believe.
 

oldMohawk

master brummie
A full view of Springhill Library c1960 -1965 taken from Monument Rd. Neither side of the library match the building seen in the bus photos.
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Williamstreeter

master brummie
I've looked at many old photos of places on the old Inner Circle route but cannot identify the location. It seems only the photographer and the bus driver knew where they were back in 1959. Maybe the bus was on it's way from a depot to join the route. I added colour as I was looking at it ...
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If we narrowed down the tower over the roof of the bus we might be a bit closer .
 

Astonian

gone but not forgotten
yes bang on my friend its either turneds right off ickneild street onto springhill or may be turned left off the monument road on to springhill heading up to the colledge pub which was on the corner of colledge road and ran to the bottom and straight into the rosemary garage yeh Astonian;;;;;
 

Grea

master brummie
The windows of the building near the upper deck of the bus get smaller from right to left which I can’t line up with any of the windows of the library. Thank you all very much for your help.
 

oldMohawk

master brummie
Searching for it has been interesting but it looks like we will have to add it the forum's list of unidentified locations. It brought back some happy memories for me because I used the Inner Circle bus four nights a week travelling to the ice rink. As mentioned before I think the bus photo is cropped from a wider photo and that has unfortunately removed areas which would have identified the location.

During searches I came across a photo of the same bus in another location and here is a cropped area from it which makes location slightly difficult but most probably know it ...
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Grea

master brummie
Old Mohawk, I think you are right. It will probably have To go on the back burner for now.
 

Phil

Gone, but not forgotten.
Going back to the original bus, this may help.


This is a list of possible building being building on or near to the number 8 bus route in the 1950’s. I have listed all the buildings that could possibly include a tower or spire and although I know a few of them did, the rest are just a guess as I have no knowledge of the buildings. I will say I have checked quite a few of them out and I my opinion they are not the place being sought. I will not say which ones as I don’t wish to sway anyone’s opinion. If anybody knows any of these places well perhaps we could have their unbiased opinion.

Camden Street School
George St West School
Springfield Library
Monument Road Methodist Church
Ladywood Community Centre
Ladywood Community Centre
St Johns Church
Edgbaston Assembly Rooms
St Lukes Church
St Lukes School
Baptist Church Bristol Street / St Lukes Road
St Lukes Sunday School
Childrens Immigration Home St Likes Road
Emmanuel Church Walford Road
Methodist Church Muntz Street
Baptist Church Victoria Street
St Saviours Mission Hall Adderley Road
Lozells Street Hall
Lozells Street Schools
Lozells Street Schools Annex
Nursery Road Mission Rooms
Hockley Hill Welsh Chapel
Icknield Street School
 

brummy-lad

master brummie
Altering the light levels in two sections of the image
1. Above the top right corner of the bus there appears to be a tower with pointed sub towers.
2. A 'keep left' sign suggests there is a cross-roads junction and the traffic behind the sign is at an angle showing that the road the bus is on bears to the left from there.
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The tower in the background looks very similar to that of Christ Church Sparkbrook which was demolished around 2005. I'm not saying that this building is a church but there could have been a church nearby. John
 

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